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tomtemor 05-12-2005 05:10 AM

AKs vs TAP
 
Button is 16.90/8.45/1.30 ... UTG is 77/0.0/0.32 Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. MP2 posts a blind of $0.5.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls.

Not much to discuss here, a cold call from a tight player though.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button calls.

Here's my real question, should I three-bet him here or checkraise him on the turn?

Turn: (7.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

River: (9.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

Final Pot: 11.25 BB

therockofgibraltar 05-12-2005 05:22 AM

Re: AKs vs TAP
 
I play it the same way.

Jacob_Gilliam 05-12-2005 05:26 AM

Re: AKs vs TAP
 
I'd three bet here. You probably have him beat. The only reason to check-raise on the turn is if you think that wil knock him out, buy hes probably calling with king-someting or a flush draw. If he outdraws you, bad luck. If he flopped a set or two pair, why is he only calling? You cant let him draw out on you cheaply. IMO, you should always three bet in these types of situations. If he caps and comes out strong on the turn you can reassess then.

i wanna be me 05-12-2005 05:47 AM

Re: AKs vs TAP
 
check-raise against a passive player is tough to judge

i like the way you played it

YM2K58 05-12-2005 05:50 AM

Re: AKs vs TAP
 
You must keep betting. You do not have position, so there's no guarantee he will bet if you check on turn.

thesharpie 05-12-2005 05:56 AM

Re: AKs vs TAP
 
3 bet the flop. You don't want the turn to get checked through. You also don't want to find out you're behind on the expensive street.

A_C_Slater 05-12-2005 05:59 AM

Re: AKs vs TAP
 
I wonder why you even posted this, it seems pretty standard to me. Did he have KQ? I bet he got scared you had KK or JJ and called down from there or maybe he put you on a flush draw pump and just called the river.

@bsolute_luck 05-12-2005 06:23 AM

Re: AKs vs TAP
 
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Button is 16.90/8.45/1.30

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once it's HU, i'd probably just call down unless he checks the turn. maybe lead out the river- not based on a 3rd [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] falling, but almost any card? i don't think a player of these stats is betting a flush draw, and i'm calling down because i think our hand is good but not sure.

thesharpie 05-12-2005 06:28 AM

Re: AKs vs TAP
 
[ QUOTE ]
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Button is 16.90/8.45/1.30

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once it's HU, i'd probably just call down unless he checks the turn. maybe lead out the river- not based on a 3rd [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] falling, but almost any card? i don't think a player of these stats is betting a flush draw, and i'm calling down because i think our hand is good but not sure.

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A 1.3 AF is capable of raising hands that you beat here, even draws. Also if villain's stats are over a small sample he could be more aggressive postflop once they even out.

@bsolute_luck 05-12-2005 06:34 AM

Re: AKs vs TAP
 
i'm not saying you're wrong, sharp, for 3-betting the flop. i'm just saying i'm willing to lose the extra SB and call down. i could definitely be wrong here, just my opinion at this point.


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