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Chobohoya 05-10-2005 09:27 PM

AK on button capped 4 ways preflop Microlimits post
 
Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed)

Table is fairly standaed... LA-P for the most part. CO is 31/17/2.5
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Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, UTG calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (16.40 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (10.20 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

River: (18.20 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Checked to CO who bets. Hero ??????

Final Pot: 18.20 BB

sthief09 05-10-2005 09:43 PM

Re: AK on button capped 4 ways preflop Microlimits post
 
headsup it's closer, but I raise. with 2 people to act in a big pot I go for overcalls and I don't think it's close

Chobohoya 05-10-2005 09:58 PM

Re: AK on button capped 4 ways preflop Microlimits post
 
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headsup it's closer, but I raise. with 2 people to act in a big pot I go for overcalls and I don't think it's close

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What hands are you putting people on?

Surfbullet 05-10-2005 10:04 PM

Re: AK on button capped 4 ways preflop Microlimits post
 
BBs line had me a bit confused at first, but upon reflection I think he's pretty solidly on AQ/JJ/TT/99 or some-such.

My first reaction to COs play was slowplayed QQ - but 2 things dissuade me from that idea.
-the pot is huge, so slowplaying is less likely
-the CO has no way to know that our hero will bet the turn. QQ would hate to miss 3 bets by having the turn check through, and IMO would bet this turn the majority of the time.

I find it unlikely that CO would iso-raise with 33 or 44 preflop, so that's out. KQ would likely raise the flop. So CO looks to be AK or KJ/KT etc that hit on the turn also.

BB going into calldown mode makes me confident hero is ahead on the turn. UTG calling along the whole way reeks of a flush draw - I 3bet on the turn for value and bet again on a non-spade river.

As it stands I raise the river because a busted flush is not calling, and anyone with a Q or K is calling (or reraising). I figure hero to be ahead here a significant amount of the time, even if reraised.

Surf

sthief09 05-10-2005 10:12 PM

Re: AK on button capped 4 ways preflop Microlimits post
 
BB cold capped so he could have JJ or TT. I think he bets the turn with AA or AK, though a scared AA seems likely. I think he'll pay off with JJ for one bet when he has it. UTG seems content with calling. he could have a drwa, but he limped UTG and called for 3 more. I think he's just attached to his hands. for two bets, both fold a good amount of the time. for one I think you get at least 1 call everytime and 2 calls occasionally.

I also don't think you have the best hand THAT often. QQ and KQ make a lot of sense here. you're just hoping he has AA or you're chopping

WarmonkEd 05-10-2005 10:20 PM

Re: AK on button capped 4 ways preflop Microlimits post
 
I put CO on a boat of some sort. 44, 33 or KQ. I'd still probably call the river.

hypermegachi 05-10-2005 10:37 PM

Re: AK on button capped 4 ways preflop Microlimits post
 
5/10 = microlimits?

wow i have a long ways to go...
i raise the river too.

Chobohoya 05-10-2005 10:39 PM

Re: AK on button capped 4 ways preflop Microlimits post
 
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5/10 = microlimits?

wow i have a long ways to go...
i raise the river too.

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That was a bit of a Jopke. There's a thread from earlier today in which a post about 5/10 6 handed was told to go to micros. Sorry about the confusion.

Chobohoya 05-10-2005 10:45 PM

Re: AK on button capped 4 ways preflop Microlimits post
 
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BB cold capped so he could have JJ or TT. I think he bets the turn with AA or AK, though a scared AA seems likely. I think he'll pay off with JJ for one bet when he has it. UTG seems content with calling. he could have a drwa, but he limped UTG and called for 3 more. I think he's just attached to his hands. for two bets, both fold a good amount of the time. for one I think you get at least 1 call everytime and 2 calls occasionally.

I also don't think you have the best hand THAT often. QQ and KQ make a lot of sense here. you're just hoping he has AA or you're chopping

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The reason this hand is interesting for me is that CO's actions don't really make that much sense. Why does he expect me to bet? If he has KQ or QQ, why not raise the flop, and why not bet the turn rather than c/r. I dont really want to give results yet, as I think there's more to say about CO and BB taken together. I like your analysis of BB's hand though.

Surfbullet 05-11-2005 01:41 PM

Re: AK on button capped 4 ways preflop Microlimits post
 
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QQ and KQ make a lot of sense here.

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Hm...why would QQ or KQ go for the turn c/r? Hero is the only player left to act and has given the villain no reason to think he will bet this turn. I think KQ or QQ would be very worried about the turn checking through and missing out on so many bets.

Surf


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