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TStoneMBD 05-09-2005 03:57 PM

is this good or very not good? (aka very very not good)
 
dude is 17/12/2.5 after 31 hands

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>

billyjex 05-09-2005 04:04 PM

Re: is this good or not good?
 
i think in the long run this is -ev.

all you have on him is stats which say nothing about how he treats a turn C/R. you might push him off A high here sometimes but if he's got this far he will most likely see the river.

i just check/call turn.

highlife 05-09-2005 04:04 PM

Re: is this good or not good?
 
i dont like this at all unless you have seen villain fold to turn raises. he could easily be the type of player to call you down with ace high here.

don't spew chips like this till you have more info on the player. i prob just fold the turn for fear of a made hand or reverse implied odds.

___1___ 05-09-2005 04:09 PM

Re: is this good or not good?
 
TStoneMBD,

Ugh...I don't like the turn semibluff checkraise at all. For me to make this play I have to feel confident button will fold a x% of the time and I don't see that happening here. Against a player this tight I check-call the turn and fold the river unimproved. Pre-flop and flop look good.

___1___

ghettorat 05-09-2005 04:11 PM

Re: is this good or not good?
 
I like the PF 3-bet.

Using the given stats as a read, flop action seems fine. I would check/fold on the turn. Against a tight passive, then the c/r - bluff may induce a fold, but this guy seems more likely to 3-bet you. Your K should not be good against this opponent in this situation. Against a Loose-aggressive, c/r since you are likely to be ahead and he will call.

I'm not an expert at this level yet, so this is only an opinion.

TStoneMBD 05-09-2005 04:19 PM

Re: is this good or not good?
 
well i got lucky and the guy folded, but that doesnt mean the play is right though.

TMFS9 05-09-2005 04:35 PM

Re: is this good or not good?
 
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i prob just fold the turn for fear of a made hand or reverse implied odds.

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Folding this turn is really bad.

wheelz 05-09-2005 04:42 PM

Re: is this good or very not good? (aka very very not good)
 
I would say it's neither...

TMFS9 05-09-2005 04:45 PM

Re: is this good or very not good? (aka very very not good)
 
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I would say it's neither...

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exactly what I was thinking

Fabian 05-09-2005 04:47 PM

Re: is this good or very not good? (aka very very not good)
 
</font><blockquote><font class="small">Svar till:</font><hr />
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I would say it's neither...

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exactly what I was thinking

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Me too actually.


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