KK in SB multiway on A high flop
 

These hands are always tough for me to play against loose-passives out of position because I never know where I'm at.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button folds.

Turn: (6 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls.

River: (9 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13 BB

What should be the typical plan here?
Bet all streets but fold to a raise (which I think I should have done in this case)?

Re: KK in SB multiway on A high flop
 

With two callers I would probably check-call this river. No ace is gonna fold, but some weaker hands or missed draws might take a stab at it so you get more from them.

Yes, I'd also be ready to fold this to a raise on any street.

I also really hate paying off this river when they raise, but the pot is pretty big...

Re: KK in SB multiway on A high flop
 

I would check/call the river since you don't want to have to call a raise and you want to see a showdown. Also, Ace/rag may check behind if they are loose passive, but they will call your river bet. So you save a bet if behind here. It is unlikely they are calling to the river with middle/bottom pair on this flop.

Re: KK in SB multiway on A high flop
 

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With two callers I would probably check-call this river. No ace is gonna fold, but some weaker hands or missed draws might take a stab at it so you get more from them.

Yes, I'd also be ready to fold this to a raise on any street.

I also really hate paying off this river when they raise, but the pot is pretty big...

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The pot is big, but you have to stop and ask "Is my hand good here 1/12 times?" I think the answer is no. I fold to this river raise vs. a loose passive . You've been betting the whole way haven't you? He has to know he has to have at least an ace to make this raise.... at least .

Re: KK in SB multiway on A high flop
 

I agree. That's why I said that I hated how he paid it off. I was simply acknowledging that the pot was quite big in relation, because otherwise someone else was gonna say it.

We'd both play this hand the same way.