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JeffO 05-05-2005 02:40 PM

Is this one close?
 
Party 15/30. Your in the SB with A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

3 limper, the CO raises, the button 3 bets and its on you.

What's your action?

balkii 05-05-2005 02:58 PM

Re: Is this one close?
 
i dont think its very close. a raise and a 3-bet after multiple limpers sounds like at least one of them has a pretty good holding that has you crushed. you have bad normal position and also bad position relative to the PFRs. i'd fold.

then again, i play too tight.

I Play 2 Ski 05-05-2005 03:04 PM

Re: Is this one close?
 
fold, its not that close.

your position sucks
the button 3bet signifies your toast
what kind of flops do you like besideds a spade draw?

stoxtrader 05-05-2005 04:10 PM

Re: Is this one close?
 
my initial thought is that it's an easy fold, but I want to look at this a bit more closely to see what kind of equity the flush draw adds, because you certainly have a nice multiway pot brewing.

I Play 2 Ski 05-05-2005 04:16 PM

Re: Is this one close?
 
I guess alot of it depends on how likely the other limpers are likely to come along.

k_squared 05-05-2005 04:32 PM

Re: Is this one close?
 
unless you have a great read on the person three-betting as being overly aggressive in trying to isolate, or simply overly aggressive (i.e. willing to 3 bet with any pair or suited cards), then it is an easy fold.

-k_squared

tpir90036 05-05-2005 04:38 PM

Re: Is this one close?
 
If the limpers are the type to sponge it all up when it gets back to them I think calling here is not horrible. But folding can't be a huge mistake either. Paying 2-ish bets here for a 6-way (possibly 7-way if the BB comes along) 3-bet pot sounds OK to me.

TBag 05-05-2005 04:43 PM

Re: Is this one close?
 
The hand does have a lot of multiway action cookin up, but I would fold. The only thing I would feel good about playing in this hand is a flush / straight, (well two pair is good too) and you're in a bad position to extract maximum value from it if you make one of said hands.

DpR 05-05-2005 05:41 PM

Re: Is this one close?
 
I muck and squirm if I see spades on the flop.

steveyz 05-05-2005 06:17 PM

Re: Is this one close?
 
Fold and it's not close.


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