Should i lay down AKs here?
 

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) converter

MP1 (t340)
MP2 (t1070)
CO (t580)
Button (t1650)
Hero (t1290)
BB (t1425)
UTG(t495)
UTG+1 (t1150)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises to t495 (All-In), UTG+1 raises to t1150 (All-In), 4 folds, Hero?

UTG played some crazy hand, i give him a big range of hands. UTG+1 played alot tighter than UTG.

My decision and reasoning in white below:
<font color="white">UTG is very loose, he already made moves with bad hands, so i'd call him anyday with 2.x times his stack. UTG+1 played tighter, he surely has some good hand. But why did he move all-in? I think he maybe did that because he wanted it HU, so nobody comes along. Problem: he could have KK or AA, too...
I folded, and ended 5th in the tournament :/</font>

Re: Should i lay down AKs here?
 

Easy fold.

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Easy fold.

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Easy? I don't think so. UTG could have anything. UTG+1 has a hand, which 'could' be AA or KK (in which case you lose) or could be any number of other hands, in which case you're essentially even money or better against him. The extra chips in the pot from UTG make this worth thinking about.

My gut tells me I fold this most of the time, but unless I have more sense of the table than I can get from this post, I don't say 'easy'.

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I think with 2 all-in folks I would have folded as well. My guess is that one or both players could have a pair, and if one had a pair and the other Ax that hurts your chances a fair bit. You don't need to win this one and losing will kill you, so I would not take the risk. I would call with a premium pair though. I am no SnG guru, so perhaps wiser folks will tell you otherwise.

John Paul

Re: Should i lay down AKs here?
 

&lt;grain of salt&gt;It's early, UTG+1 probably has a hand. I'd let them slug it out and try to take their chips later.&lt;/grain of salt&gt;

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Easy fold.

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Easy? I don't think so. UTG could have anything. UTG+1 has a hand, which 'could' be AA or KK (in which case you lose) or could be any number of other hands, in which case you're essentially even money or better against him. The extra chips in the pot from UTG make this worth thinking about.

My gut tells me I fold this most of the time, but unless I have more sense of the table than I can get from this post, I don't say 'easy'.

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Its extremely easy. What are you hoping for? This?

As Ks 481346 35.12 845419 61.68 43989 3.21 0.366
3c 3h 540743 39.45 823024 60.04 6987 0.51 0.396
Ah Qh 304676 22.23 1022089 74.56 43989 3.21 0.237

Or this?

As Ks 527768 38.50 838719 61.19 4267 0.31 0.386
3c 3h 239959 17.51 1126528 82.18 4267 0.31 0.176
Jd Jh 598760 43.68 767727 56.01 4267 0.31 0.438

Or I guess you are PRAYING for this?

As Ks 964427 70.36 329244 24.02 77083 5.62 0.731
Kd Qh 100225 7.31 1249043 91.12 21486 1.57 0.080
Qc Ad 221947 16.19 1071936 78.20 76871 5.61 0.189

Why take a decent stack at this point in the game and throw it away with AK in a three way? Why? Makes no sense at all to me. Even your best case scenarios give you a roughly 30% suckout risk. Your worst case scenarios have you leaving the table 80% of the time +. I don't think this is even close.

Re: Should i lay down AKs here?
 

Thanks for your replies, it feels good that the decision was right!
Here are the results; my dog was lucky not to be in range [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

UTG: 9d, 8d, pair of nines
UTG+1: Ac, Qc, high card Ace
Hero: As, Ks, flush

Re: Should i lay down AKs here?
 

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Easy fold.

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Not at the Party $11.

Re: Should i lay down AKs here?
 

If this is at the 11s, only fold if you hate +EV situations.

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Tilt, nice analysis and all but if you look at the hands that went all in before AKs, you will see AKs as a nice favorite. And at the $11 level this is not out of the norm, many times this same situation occurs and you will be losing money by folding AKs here.