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gomberg 04-27-2005 01:29 PM

limping AK hand
 
Full 5-10 game.

I limp UTG ($1000) w/ AKo. UTG+1 limps ($1500). Folded to Button who raises to $40 (tight, straightforward player w/ $500). BB ($1000) calls. I call. UTG+1 calls.

flop: KxKs7s. BB checks, I bet $100, UTG+1 folds, Button calls, BB folds.

turn: 3s. (I don't have As). I push.

this hand could have been played in many different ways.
comments?

radioheadfan 04-27-2005 02:17 PM

Re: limping AK hand
 
With your laggy image I think you'll get paid off firing pot sized bets on each round. The all-in looks crazy and maybe he'll pay it off if he has a hand, but he could easily have something like 99 in hand which he simply wouldn't feel comfortable calling off that much money with. I would have let him pay me off in installments on this one (although I would really HATE to see a spade on the river).

BloodyRomance 04-27-2005 02:17 PM

Re: limping AK hand
 
I like the preflop call opposed to pushing considering you have two other players to shake off and raiser is a tight, straight forward player. Good bet on the flop, curious why he didn't raise so I figure 88-AA or it's gonna be chopped? However, he probably would've raised with his AK or 77 [maybe]. Good push on turn if he does have AK cause you might be able to shake him off of it, although he may have the A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. You also have to ask yourself if he's the type of player to call with a flush draw with a pair on the board, since you're out of position. However, you are able to act first on the scare card. Nicely played in my opinion, but you're beating more hands than not so hopefully he'll pay you off. Sorry but I'm not sure if this was a helpful reponse, but I thought I would give it a shot and see if people think my newbie reasoning is somewhat on the right track.

gomberg 04-27-2005 06:38 PM

Results
 
Thanks for replies...

Villain calls quickly and turns over QQs. River blanks and MHIG. How badly / good did villain play this hand?

gomberg 04-27-2005 06:40 PM

Re: limping AK hand
 
right, the only hand I'm afraid of is AsK or AsQs. I don't think he would raise there preflop w/ AsQs, but I guess it's possible. I just figured I'd push to 1) charge a live flush draw and 2) because he wouldn't be able to fold QQ / JJ / AA anyway.

Big_Jim 04-27-2005 08:17 PM

Re: Results
 
Not sure what villian puts you on on this hand.

I suppose that you could be overplaying JJ-88 trying to push him out, but I would have guessed that you were:

a) Semi-bluffing on the flop, and hit your flush
b) Had KQs, hit your K and are trying to shut out flush draws (Although, this would be a horrible play PF)
c) Had 77 and are trying to punish anybody him if he got his flush.
In all of these cases, he is drawing very slim, or dead.

Of course, this depends on your table image, more than anything else. If villian views you as LAG, he may put you on a bluff, or some other pair. Obviously, hard to put you on AK here.

Personally, I think that villian was in a raise/fold situation on the flop, and chose the third option. Had he raised the flop, his turn action (or fold after you pushed) would have been much easier.

iceman5 04-27-2005 09:37 PM

Re: limping AK hand
 
He wouldnt be able to fold QQ, JJ or AA with 2 kings on the flop? Theres no way I would call your all in with any of those hands.

That is an amatuer hour call. If you push all in as a bluff with no king then so be it. Im not calling and I think its horrible.

Big_Jim 04-27-2005 09:46 PM

Re: limping AK hand
 
Agreed. The only hands that he will call this bet with are

a) A flush
b) A full house (77)
c) KQ, KJ (Would he really raise these hands?)

If you get called, you're beat more often than not, I think. Make a standard bet here, maybe 2/3-Pot Sized and re-evaluate after seeing his action. You give flush draws bad odds to call, and still might get called down by a worse hand like AA,QQ-TT.

xcrack999 04-27-2005 10:05 PM

Re: limping AK hand
 
Remember that Villain started the hand with $500. At the turn, there is already $365 in the pot, and villain only has $360 left. (I hope my math is correct) So hero's all-in was basically just a pot-size bet.

iceman5 04-27-2005 10:18 PM

Re: limping AK hand
 
It doesnt matter. If Im villain, Im folding to Heros flop bet so I never even see the turn. Call me weak tight but I see better situations than this all day long.


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