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KCheng 04-26-2005 08:39 PM

2/4: Proper Pre-Flop Fold?
 
Just sat down not too long ago, so no real reads...Last hand, MP1 had 88 and just limped so I put him on better than that, but apparently he was just varying up his play.

What would you guys have done with the AQ?

Thanks!

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 caps</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP1 calls.

Flop: (15.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (10.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, CO calls, MP1 calls.

River: (13.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
MP1 checks, MP3 checks, CO checks.

Final Pot: 13.75 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG+1 doesn't show.
MP1 has 7h 7d (straight, king high).
MP3 has Qh As (straight, ace high).
CO has Kh Th (straight, king high).
Outcome: MP3 wins 13.75 BB. </font>

New001 04-26-2005 08:42 PM

Re: 2/4: Proper Pre-Flop Fold?
 
You were right to fold, don't worry that you would have had the winner/split. With that action, a big pair or AK is too likely.

brazilio 04-26-2005 08:43 PM

Re: 2/4: Proper Pre-Flop Fold?
 
Don't show the rest of the hand. And with that extra padding of the CO in there I'm not folding. I'm not folding even if the CO isn't in there, but I'm prepared to drop ASAP if the flop doesn't hit me.

New001 04-26-2005 08:45 PM

Re: 2/4: Proper Pre-Flop Fold?
 
What are you hoping they have to 3-bet with or cap that you beat? At best, you're drawing to 3 outs out of position.

brazilio 04-26-2005 08:46 PM

Re: 2/4: Proper Pre-Flop Fold?
 
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What are you hoping they have to 3-bet with or cap that you beat? At best, you're drawing to 3 outs out of position.

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Then you don't understand what people at 2/4 are willing to 3-bet or cap with.

New001 04-26-2005 08:48 PM

Re: 2/4: Proper Pre-Flop Fold?
 
I assume it's legitimate unless they prove themselves to be retards or they're LAGs. Without reads, I fold this.

brazilio 04-26-2005 09:02 PM

Re: 2/4: Proper Pre-Flop Fold?
 
16:2

CallMeIshmael 04-26-2005 09:05 PM

Re: 2/4: Proper Pre-Flop Fold?
 
This is an easy fold.

EDIT: suited and its a call.

This hand just cant make enough hands here.

New001 04-26-2005 09:09 PM

Re: 2/4: Proper Pre-Flop Fold?
 
But what kind of flop are you looking for? If AK is out there, you have 3 outs to a Q, and that's only if there's not a K too. If QQ or KK is out there, you have 3 outs to your A. If AA is out there, you're drawing very slim. And if multiples of these are out there, you're screwed.

Edit: Yeah, suited is a call every time. 16-2 is fine odds with the flush possibilities as long as you don't stay married to the hand if it's Q high and tons of action.

KDawgCometh 04-26-2005 09:10 PM

Re: 2/4: Proper Pre-Flop Fold?
 
[ QUOTE ]
This is an easy fold.

EDIT: suited and its a call.

This hand just cant make enough hands here.

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