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RockPile 04-16-2005 03:29 AM

Trying to get rid of the FPS. Another TT hand
 
I was pretty sure I was ahead for the hand - but I have to act first ... when the river came I was sure I was beat, especially after the raise.. however for 1 bet was it okay to call this?

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Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (13 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls.

Turn: (8 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, CO calls.

River: (11 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 17 BB

thesharpie 04-16-2005 03:37 AM

Re: Trying to get rid of the FPS. Another TT hand
 
River is fine. Definitely call this without a read, even if I have a read the raiser is extremely passive I think I've got to call it down just in case he's raising some 2 pair.

I'm not sure I like the flop, then again I'm a bit weak tight. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

A_C_Slater 04-16-2005 03:38 AM

Re: Trying to get rid of the FPS. Another TT hand
 
Ugh. TT and two overcards and 3 opponents behind you on a 2flush flop. I think I just cut my losses here and check/fold. Singelton overcard and it's an easy bet. Maybe, even a JQx flop, but people love to play them Ax.

After your flop bet though, I like the turn and river. Even if you have the best hand on the river you won't be missing a BB because you can get an overcall that you might not have gotten by reraising.

Kumubou 04-16-2005 04:40 AM

Re: Trying to get rid of the FPS. Another TT hand
 
Betting into three people with two overcards (most notably the scrub-magnet ace), a two-flush, and slightly coordiniated? Ugh. Ugly flop, I just cut my losses and let it go.

Honestly, I would considering dumping this even with a single ace overcard. I can not remember the last time someone called me down to the river and did not have an ace. Guh. (With a single overcard of another rank, it's usually worth betting out down the line, until someone shows some resistance, anyway).

-K

deepsquat 04-16-2005 04:46 AM

Re: Trying to get rid of the FPS. Another TT hand
 
Id consider a 3bet on the river.. There is one hand you are behind here JQ.

Mp2's overcall prob makes this unecessary, i missed that

imported_leader 04-16-2005 05:09 AM

Re: Trying to get rid of the FPS. Another TT hand
 
I'd check/fold the flop. That's just a nasty one against 3 other players.
I think I'm 3-betting the river here. For every time he has QJ I think there will be 2 times he shows you a lower set or more likely 2 pair. If he turns over J7 or 76, you've got a new buddy.

DeathDonkey 04-16-2005 05:16 AM

Re: Trying to get rid of the FPS. Another TT hand
 
Nice hand!

-DeathDonkey

Felipe 04-16-2005 09:39 AM

Re: Trying to get rid of the FPS. Another TT hand
 
[ QUOTE ]
Id consider a 3bet on the river.. There is one hand you are behind here JQ...

[/ QUOTE ]

QJ, and J7 and 67

BriPlay 04-16-2005 02:30 PM

Re: Trying to get rid of the FPS. Another TT hand
 
well your play wasn't fancy play..but i do think you overplayed these tens.
with TT..i feel 3 bet PF from SB is a waste of $
everyone is going to call..and this is not a value bet IMO with raiser and TWO cold calls. Queens andKings i'd reraise, but not TT.

with this flop i'd be trying to run away..far away..
TWO over cards! Flush draw! str8 draws everywhere.
you have to lead into 3 othters..I'd check and fold...unless if MP2s and others fold..you could reraise and if MP2 is bluffing..take the pot with a turn bet (but of course that is 'fancy play' [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] )
Brian

BriPlay 04-16-2005 02:32 PM

Re: Trying to get rid of the FPS. Another TT hand
 
i meant to type " if MP2 BETS and others fold"
sorry
brian


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