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NAU_Player 04-09-2005 11:43 PM

Two hands - QQ and JJ - how bad does it look?
 
First hand at the table

SB is 15/4/1 after 55
No stats on MP2

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, SB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (8.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, SB calls.

River: (11.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks.

Final Pot: 11.50 BB

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4th hand at the table
no read on villain

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $1.
UTG (poster) checks, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (16.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (12.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 folds.

I said fold out loud after I called... Not sure what I was thinking

River: (14.75 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

again, not sure what the hell I was thinking...

Final Pot: 16.75 BB

jaxUp 04-09-2005 11:46 PM

Re: Two hands - QQ and JJ - how bad does it look?
 
Hand 1: river is pretty safe to bet I think. A bit of a scare card, but unless SB is a frequent c/r'er you can probably drop a bet in there. (actually with MP2 sticking arouns you can maybe get away with a river check/call)

Hand 2: Drop it on the turn.

thesharpie 04-09-2005 11:50 PM

Re: Two hands - QQ and JJ - how bad does it look?
 
First one bet the river. Second one is tough. You don't know whether he's crazy or trying to push you off your hand as aggros love to get crazy on paired flops. I think I fold the turn against an unknown, though.

deepsquat 04-10-2005 01:17 AM

Re: Two hands - QQ and JJ - how bad does it look?
 
Hand 1 bet the river, id fold to a raise as there are several cards that beat u.

Hand 2- dump it on the turn.

Ianco15 04-10-2005 01:32 AM

Re: Two hands - QQ and JJ - how bad does it look?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Hand 1 bet the river, id fold to a raise as there are several cards that beat u.

[/ QUOTE ]
This is exactly why I think you should check the river. It's close but because there are so many ways you are beaten and with MP2 (call down) still to act, I like checking and calling 1 bet.

Hand 2: I would fold the turn.


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