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Reqtech 04-06-2005 12:12 PM

2 back door draws on the flop.
 
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed)

Hero posts blind in CO.
Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, Hero calls, button folds, SB folds, BB calls

Flop: (8.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG+1 bets, MP2 calls, Hero ???

This is my first hand on the table as shown by posting my blind in the CO. I called the pf raise since it had a caller, and I thought that at least one of the blinds would call.

I felt like this was a tough flop decision...getting roughly 10:1 on 2 back door draws.

SlyGuy 04-06-2005 12:17 PM

Re: 2 back door draws on the flop.
 
Fold.

Nick Royale 04-06-2005 12:18 PM

Re: 2 back door draws on the flop.
 
Folds quicker than he can say blueberry pie.

tiltaholic 04-06-2005 12:20 PM

Re: 2 back door draws on the flop.
 
i fold preflop and then again on the flop.

jaxUp 04-06-2005 12:22 PM

Re: 2 back door draws on the flop.
 
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i fold preflop and then again on the flop.

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I thought so to at first, but hero posted. And yeah, fold the flop

Nick Royale 04-06-2005 12:25 PM

Re: 2 back door draws on the flop.
 
[ QUOTE ]
I thought so to at first, but hero posted.

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Yup, easy call.

droolie 04-06-2005 12:27 PM

Re: 2 back door draws on the flop.
 
You're definitely behind, you don't have to outs for 10:1 and you're not closing the action. Very easy fold.

(Outs....
Backdoor flush 1.5 (generous given you might lose to a higher flush). Backdoor str8(1 gapped) 1 out. 2.5 total generously.)

Talex 04-06-2005 12:27 PM

Re: 2 back door draws on the flop.
 
I'm wondering how much bigger the pot needs to be in order to peel one off. If the backdoors are worth 1.5 each then we're getting pretty good odds to see the turn, especially if we're closing the action. I can't tell if that's the case since BB seems to have disappeared after calling the raise preflop.

-Tim

Ivanapolis 04-06-2005 12:31 PM

Re: 2 back door draws on the flop.
 
Barf. Alone the idea to call here is abnormal.

droolie 04-06-2005 12:34 PM

Re: 2 back door draws on the flop.
 
Hey Ivan! I've played a ton with you over the last few months (under many identities). It's good to see your mixing it up here. Welcome aboard!


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