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Baseballer02 04-01-2005 02:24 PM

At any point do say \"Hmmm, shouldn\'t have slow played flop.\"??
 
Since there were many people in the hand I decided to try and slow play my two's. Was I wrong with the way I ended up playing this hand?

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (7 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, Hero calls, CO calls.

River: (19 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, CO calls, SB calls.

Final Pot: 31 BB

einbert 04-01-2005 02:27 PM

Re: At any point do say \"Hmmm, shouldn\'t have slow played flop.\"??
 
I probably raise the flop here but you played it fine, just calling to lure in the field is fine here.

jrz1972 04-01-2005 02:29 PM

Re: At any point do say \"Hmmm, shouldn\'t have slow played flop.\"??
 
Slowplaying here is probably okay. You have a monster, the pot is small, this flop didn't help anybody, and you really want people to hang around and catch a 2nd best hand on the turn.

The only real drawback to slowplaying this when you raise the turn (you have to raise at some point), you will be blasting people out of the pot. That wasn't a problem on this hand, but only because you got lucky that the top card paired.

A strong case can be made for just raising the flop. You will fold out more than you would like, but at least it builds a pot and hopefully ties the people who are left to their hands.

UncleSalty 04-01-2005 02:30 PM

Re: At any point do say \"Hmmm, shouldn\'t have slow played flop.\"??
 
This has been hammered into me enough that I think I can safely say this for the vets:

"Do not slowplay a set in the microlimits. Ever."

davelin 04-01-2005 02:31 PM

Re: At any point do say \"Hmmm, shouldn\'t have slow played flop.\"??
 
[ QUOTE ]
This has been hammered into me enough that I think I can safely say this for the vets:

"Do not slowplay a set in the microlimits. Ever."

[/ QUOTE ]

Actually, I don't mind it here.

jrz1972 04-01-2005 02:31 PM

Re: At any point do say \"Hmmm, shouldn\'t have slow played flop.\"??
 
If Hero were CO or button, slowplaying would definitely be the right play here.

UncleSalty 04-01-2005 02:33 PM

Re: At any point do say \"Hmmm, shouldn\'t have slow played flop.\"??
 
Lol. I will never understand this damn game. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

But I'll always love it.

reubenf 04-01-2005 02:33 PM

Re: At any point do say \"Hmmm, shouldn\'t have slow played flop.\"??
 
I like the slowplay here with FIVE!! players to act behind that already need to call a bet.

GrunchCan 04-01-2005 02:43 PM

Re: At any point do say \"Hmmm, shouldn\'t have slow played flop.\"??
 
[ QUOTE ]
I probably raise the flop here but you played it fine, just calling to lure in the field is fine here.

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Agreed. Never say never in poker.

FishHooks 04-01-2005 03:38 PM

Re: At any point do say \"Hmmm, shouldn\'t have slow played flop.\"??
 
raising the flop will get more bets into the pot. If you raise the flop most of these loose players will make a loose call, thats what they do. Then you will be checked to on the turn and you will bet and half the people will call you. I dont like slowplaying this here. When you slowplay the flop and then raise the turn you have created a smaller pot and you when you raise you now force mostly eveyone to fold which is not what you want on this ragged board you want those overcards to call, which is what they will do on the flop that is as ragged as this.


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