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iceman5 03-29-2005 03:37 AM

Lets see if you guys like this one any better
 
If I wasnt open to critisism, I wouldnt post this hand after the lashing I took on the last one. So here goes.

The only draw is a gutshot so I like my flop raise.
The turn raise probably shouldve been higher , right?
My main concern is the river. I almost pushed all in after he check raised, but AT was a concern. Im a wuss and shouldve pushed right?


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter

MP2 ($133.1)
MP3 ($563.4)
CO ($455)
Hero ($924.1)
SB ($314.3)
BB ($594.8)
UTG ($195)
UTG+1 ($747.4)
UTG+2 ($371.6)
MP1 ($182.3)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $4, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls $4, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $4, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB checks.

Flop: ($18) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $4</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 calls $12.

Turn: ($50) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $10</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $40</font>, UTG+1 calls $30.

River: ($130) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $100</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $275</font>, Hero calls $175.

Final Pot: $680

Popinjay 03-29-2005 03:50 AM

Re: Lets see if you guys like this one any better
 
Would he play TT or 22 the same way? If so it's a push, but it's close. If he plays AK this way then it's definetly not a push

xorbie 03-29-2005 04:24 AM

Re: Lets see if you guys like this one any better
 
Would UTG limp AT? I think it has to be either that or TT/22, with the latter seemingly more likely (just based on how many ways he can have it). It also seems like that massive underbet is more likely to be TT/22 than AT, but I could be wrong.

Thus, I think pushing is going to be a bit more high variance, but it's quite possibly +EV, so long as you can rule out AK.

kagame 03-29-2005 04:48 AM

Re: Lets see if you guys like this one any better
 
have a feeling this should be a fold or push, based upon your read of the player

youre calling when behind and not maximizing profit when ahead

i know this is a hard spot, dont mean to be overly critical

PoBoy321 03-29-2005 04:54 AM

Re: Lets see if you guys like this one any better
 
I think that you played this hand fine. Based on the way that he is massively underbetting the flop and turn, this looks like he's trying to get a cheap showdown. If I were to guess, villain holds KK, a failed limp-reraise pre-flop and rivered an underboat.

BoxTree 03-29-2005 05:09 AM

Re: Lets see if you guys like this one any better
 
I like the flop raise.

I like the turn raise.

The river check-raise is awfully scary. But he didn't raise all-in.

Hrm...

I put him on a smaller boat. But how small? 22? KK? It's hard to say. It could very well be AT or AK.

I'd just call the river.

magicmntn 03-29-2005 05:38 AM

Re: Lets see if you guys like this one any better
 
I push here. No preflop raise means no AK. A10 is a possibility, but I doubt it. The $100 river bet was not convincing. I think he raised hoping to steal with AJ. I figure by pushing this hand in this spot every time I make money.

flawless_victory 03-29-2005 07:09 AM

Re: Lets see if you guys like this one any better
 
[ QUOTE ]
I push here. No preflop raise means no AK. A10 is a possibility, but I doubt it. The $100 river bet was not convincing. I think he raised hoping to steal with AJ. I figure by pushing this hand in this spot every time I make money.

[/ QUOTE ]hmm.. you make four points. the first three are stone cold wrong... the last one is debatable..

kagame 03-29-2005 08:35 AM

Re: Lets see if you guys like this one any better
 
wish someone would reply to what i wrote

i dont see why everyone thinks Hero is ahead so often

against TAG opponents this is a really bad spot imho

i limp with ATs UTG, AK is just as likely as KK

TT less likely than AT etc

Ole16 03-29-2005 09:46 AM

Re: Lets see if you guys like this one any better
 
[ QUOTE ]
wish someone would reply to what i wrote....
against TAG opponents this is a really bad spot imho.
i limp with ATs UTG, AK is just as likely as KK
TT less likely than AT etc

[/ QUOTE ]

"i limp with ATs UTG" - then I wouldnt call you TAG
"AK is just as likely as KK" - perhaps
"TT less likely than AT" - why is that?


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