QQ disaster...?
 

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (8 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(8 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, MP3 folds, Hero calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls.

River: (14.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, UTG+2 folds, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 20.50 BB

Re: QQ disaster...?
 

wtf. i stopped reading this when you only called preflop. raise this 100% of the time.

you're so screwed on teh turn

nice river.

Re: QQ disaster...?
 

unbelievable.

dont ever call there preflop...totally nuts. the amount of money you just gave up there is just...well...wow.

i think you're just about screwed. i think J9 is what MP2 had. at least it looks kinda like that. maybe a poorly played set that is now afraid of the straight or flush on the river.

but either way. poorly played preflop, thats what started the disaster.

-Barron

Re: QQ disaster...?
 

Sorry, I didn't feel like raising to create pot odds for everyone to chase everyone on the flop/turn. I'm more curious as to my play on the turn. Should I have folded? 3-bet?

Re: QQ disaster...?
 

Why didn't you raise pre-flop?

It's hard to know how your hand rates on the turn, because a guy with AJ probably thinks he turned the nuts. Even the river is tenuous, since the turn raise might've been a semi-bluff that just came in.

Re: QQ disaster...?
 

I think it's great that you're thinking about pot size manipulation, but you should also be thinking about the equity QQ loses by not raising pre-flop. You lost quite a bit here.

Re: QQ disaster...?
 

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Sorry, I didn't feel like raising to create pot odds for everyone to chase everyone on the flop/turn.

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You better take cover...

Re: QQ disaster...?
 

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Sorry, I didn't feel like raising to create pot odds for everyone to chase everyone on the flop/turn. I'm more curious as to my play on the turn. Should I have folded? 3-bet?

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stop
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high
limit
hold'em.

Re: QQ disaster...?
 

once you get the hang of it, the PP 15/30 game is really quite profitable.

Especially if you can play 4 tables.

Turn play
 

Ok, it seems like everyone is caught up about not raising with QQ preflop. I specifically posted this to try to get my postflop play, focusing on the turn. Should I have 3-bet or folded instead? Results post later.