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maryfield48 03-26-2005 11:37 AM

Another structure question - why does this work?
 
What does it say about my home NL STT's that this structure (Antes/SB/BB):

Level 1: 0/15/30
Level 2: 0/25/50
Level 3: 0/50/100
Level 4: 0/75/150
Level 5: 50/100/200
Level 6: 50/150/300
Level 7: 100/200/400
Level 8: 100/300/600

generally ends around level 5-6 (these are 60 minute levels)? We start with T2000, and up to the end of L1 allow one re-buy of T1000, and add-ons of 500 up to a maximum of T2000.

Reason I ask is all the sample home game structures that I see have shorter levels, and more steeper curves.

Any thoughts?

twankerr 03-26-2005 12:58 PM

Re: Another structure question - why does this work?
 
The ante may be a little high. I've seen the ante being introduced at T25, not T50 most of the time.

Arsene Lupin III 03-28-2005 03:59 AM

Re: Another structure question - why does this work?
 
15/30 level is pointless. why bother with red chips? just make it 25/25.

antes are too high. they should be no more than 1/6 of the bb. start at 25.

Lottery Larry 03-28-2005 11:37 AM

Re: Another structure question - why does this work?
 
[ QUOTE ]
What does it say about my home NL STT's that this structure (Antes/SB/BB):

Level 4: 0/75/150
Level 5: 50/100/200
Level 6: 50/150/300
Level 7: 100/200/400
Level 8: 100/300/600

generally ends around level 5-6 (these are 60 minute levels)? We start with T2000, and up to the end of L1 allow one re-buy of T1000, and add-ons of 500 up to a maximum of T2000.
Any thoughts?

[/ QUOTE ]

As I've generally experienced, STTs end when the blinds are about 5-10% of the starting stacks. If you have 8-10 players, you're talking about T40-50K in total chips, so I'm a bit surprised it's ending so early.

However, as the others have pointed out, your antes are a bit high. Even at your lowest ante ratio- Level 6: 50/150/300- means that you have 950 or more in the pot before anyone has to taken any action, getting over 3:1 on a call. That means a lot of hands can play and a lot more can get sucked in after the first caller.
Even a raise gives a cold-caller almost 3:1, with pretty large pot odds on the flop to draw to.
Plus, I'm not sure the blinds can fold, even to a raise (300 or 450 to get 1550?) so you can add those implied odds to any consideration of calling a raise.

I'm guessing you have a lot of aggressive, multi-player pots- and it seems correct to do so? Or are people getting bored?

Are you looking to extend the tourney? Lessen the antes and maybe slow down the blinds a little. You can start at 10/20 instead and maybe slow down the higher levels?

Let us know
LL

illini43 03-28-2005 04:24 PM

Re: Another structure question - why does this work?
 
Most of the ante structures that I have seen work have the ante around .25 of the SB. So an ante of 25 for your 100/200 level and so on.


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