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flawless_victory 03-24-2005 10:12 PM

PP1KNL. FLOP TOP SET. UGLY RIVER SPOT OOP.
 
party 5-10nl 6max. full game. game is alright. CO opens for $35 folded to me in the BB and i call with 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
CO- ~$1500
HERO- more than that.
i really dislike the way i played this hand postflop...
FLOP. 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
hero bets $45. villain min raises $90. hero calls.
TURN. Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
hero checks. CO bets $125. hero raises $400. villain calls.
RIVER. A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
hero????
pot is just over a dime. he has $938 left.

Usagi_yo 03-25-2005 12:03 AM

Re: PP1KNL. FLOP TOP SET. UGLY RIVER SPOT OOP.
 
This looks like a situation value bet situation. Say $400 minimum bet. If you push, you only going to get called if he beats you, but he may just call $400 with KK, or perhaps AQ. If he pushes, you'll be unhappy with the call, and unhappy with folding.

And I see nothing wrong with your post flop play.

I'm also assuming Villian is CO, or you slipped a third person in there.

zaxx19 03-25-2005 04:10 AM

Re: PP1KNL. FLOP TOP SET. UGLY RIVER SPOT OOP.
 
425-550$...

Im not thinking of folding here is that wrong? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] Pots gotten way to large.

flawless_victory 03-25-2005 01:16 PM

Re: PP1KNL. FLOP TOP SET. UGLY RIVER SPOT OOP.
 
HELLO? COMMENT ON MY HAND. THE RIVER. ITS BRUTAL. WHAT IS THE PLAN?

macdafunk 03-25-2005 01:28 PM

Re: PP1KNL. FLOP TOP SET. UGLY RIVER SPOT OOP.
 
I like the way you played it post flop.

I am pretty certain he has one of three hands here, AA KK QQ. this may be weak but I check the river with the plan to fold to an all in and call any 1/2 pot sized bet or less.

fsuplayer 03-25-2005 01:35 PM

Re: PP1KNL. FLOP TOP SET. UGLY RIVER SPOT OOP.
 
[ QUOTE ]
HELLO? COMMENT ON MY HAND. THE RIVER. ITS BRUTAL. WHAT IS THE PLAN?

[/ QUOTE ]

id say the flop and turn play are worse.

flawless_victory 03-25-2005 01:42 PM

Re: PP1KNL. FLOP TOP SET. UGLY RIVER SPOT OOP.
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
HELLO? COMMENT ON MY HAND. THE RIVER. ITS BRUTAL. WHAT IS THE PLAN?

[/ QUOTE ]

id say the flop and turn play are worse.

[/ QUOTE ]honestly, i was distracted and not paying alot of attention during this hand.i already said i played it extremely sucky.how do i keep from compounding my horribleness on the river...? FWIW, this is not how i usually play this hand on flop,turn...

fsuplayer 03-25-2005 01:47 PM

Re: PP1KNL. FLOP TOP SET. UGLY RIVER SPOT OOP.
 
bet what you think he may call with his range of hands. maybe 400-600, or you could move in.
if he has a set, oh well, tough luck.

freemoney 03-25-2005 04:16 PM

Re: PP1KNL. FLOP TOP SET. UGLY RIVER SPOT OOP.
 
you really dont think hero is good 33% of the time here? i think its really tough to fold this at the river, if he set on you i guess i pay him off, but i dont like checking b/c it lets him check behind with hands you beat and would get a call from.

macdafunk 03-25-2005 04:40 PM

Re: PP1KNL. FLOP TOP SET. UGLY RIVER SPOT OOP.
 
i guess the flop min raise + the big check raise call on the turn make me think he has a really big hand. checking the river after the ace falls shows weakness so i think there is a good chance he will take another shot at winning the pot with a bet of $500 or so. with the nuts he will go all in and that is an easy fold. if he is an all in bluffer than leading the river would work.

question: how would fsu and flawless play the flop and turn differently?


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