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GrandmaStabone 03-14-2005 10:44 AM

Pokertracker autorating stat ranges, accurate?
 
These are the Bison autorate ranges, anyone think any of them should be changed?


Autorate Rules Begin
Aggression:N
ARI_12 1 CallStation
19 1 30.00 When Folds - No Fold % is greater than 30.00
15 3 1.00 Aggression Factor - Total is less than 1.00
ARI_2 2 Fish
21 3 15.00 When Folds - Flop % is less than 15.00
7 1 50.00 Saw Flop Not A Blind % is greater than 50.00
ARI_9 3 Rock
7 3 10.00 Saw Flop Not A Blind % is less than 10.00
ARI_10 4 Maniac
2 1 15.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than 15.00
15 1 3.00 Aggression Factor - Total is greater than 3.00
13 3 0 Win Rate Per 100 Hands is less than 0.00
ARI_4 5 LA-A
1 2 20.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than or equal to 20.00
2 2 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than or equal to 5.00
15 2 2.00 Aggression Factor - Total is greater than or equal to 2.00
ARI_8 6 LA-P
1 2 20.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than or equal to 20.00
2 2 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than or equal to 5.00
15 3 2.00 Aggression Factor - Total is less than 2.00
ARI_14 7 LP-A
1 2 20.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than or equal to 20.00
2 3 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is less than 5.00
15 2 2.00 Aggression Factor - Total is greater than or equal to 2.00
ARI_11 8 LP-P
1 2 20.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than or equal to 20.00
2 3 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is less than 5.00
15 3 2.00 Aggression Factor - Total is less than 2.00
ARI_5 9 TP-P
1 3 20.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than 20.00
2 3 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is less than 5.00
15 3 2.00 Aggression Factor - Total is less than 2.00
ARI_13 10 TP-A
1 3 20.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than 20.00
2 3 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is less than 5.00
15 2 2.00 Aggression Factor - Total is greater than or equal to 2.00
ARI_6 11 TA-P
1 3 20.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than 20.00
2 2 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than or equal to 5.00
15 4 2.00 Aggression Factor - Total is less than or equal to 2.00
ARI_15 12 TA-N
1 3 20.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than 20.00
2 2 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than or equal to 5.00
15 5 2.00 3.00 Aggression Factor - Total is between 2.00 and 3.00
ARI_3 13 TA-A
1 3 20.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than 20.00
2 2 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than or equal to 5.00
15 2 3.00 Aggression Factor - Total is greater than or equal to 3.00
Autorate Rules End

GrandmaStabone 03-14-2005 10:50 AM

Re: Pokertracker autorating stat ranges, accurate?
 
Seems to me that with the maniacs I encounter, it takes more than a V$PIP of "20 or greater" to be considered loose, like 30-35 or higher maybe? I personally maintain 16-19, but 20-25 is relatively conservative compared to the field I am accustomed to? Anyone else?

GrandmaStabone 03-14-2005 10:51 AM

Re: Pokertracker autorating stat ranges, accurate?
 
Hoo-rah! GrandmaStabone is now no longer a newbie.....

easypete 03-14-2005 11:01 AM

Re: Pokertracker autorating stat ranges, accurate?
 
Bison's rating system is just to catagorize players into their pf and post flop tendencies. Since there is a limited number of icons in pokertracker, he was restricted into how many catagories he could rate. With this limitation, he did a great job, and it helps out.

Now that you notice there are differences in LA-A's... use that information. Should you change Bison's rating system... sure... if it fits how you play.

When it all boils down, Bison's system is a starting point. I have removed all of these player ratings from my note exports now (they don't track very well with multiple databases). In my mind, the LA-A is broken down into about 10 more types of LA-A's. The LP-A's have about 4 different catagories. I look at VPIP/PFR/AF-F/AF-T/AF-R/cr%/WSD to pass judgement on players now, instead of just Bison's rating system.

SeaEagle 03-14-2005 11:54 AM

Re: Pokertracker autorating stat ranges, accurate?
 
I generally play 3/6 and 5/10 on Party, so my ratings are based on the play there. I've found that breaks for looseness of <15%/15-25/25-40/>40 seem to work pretty well.

I also color the table green if it's over 20% voluntary $ as well.

--SeaEagle

jtr 03-14-2005 03:29 PM

Re: Pokertracker autorating stat ranges, accurate?
 
I agree with Pete: Bison's system was a great start but is by no means the only way of sensibly categorizing players.

ALso, if you go down the road of devising your own system, be aware of just how many hands it takes for some of the more volatile statistics to settle down. See especially the river aggression factor and the WSD number.

2ndGoat 03-14-2005 03:45 PM

Re: Pokertracker autorating stat ranges, accurate?
 
I divised my own auto-rating system which is perhaps a little bit out there. Works great for me, but I wouldn't even post it here because these categories that mean something to me probably mean something a little different to the rest of mankind.

2nd


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