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MrWookie47 03-01-2005 12:07 AM

First post, getting started w/ an 88 hand
 
After having been lurking in the background for quite a while now, I figured I'd come out of the shadows and do what everyone does - post a hand in which there's a good chance I screwed up. First off, though, I'd just like to thank all the posters in this forum. While my first foray into the world of online poker was met with a sudden and immediate downswing due in part to a some play errors, but mostly just variance, I've managed to claw my way back into the black, due mostly to the input of the posters here and a couple more readings of SSHE.

Anyway, onto the hand. For reads, for what about 20 hands of data are worth, UTG+1 was LP-P with 71%/0%/0.8, CO was also LP-P with 58%/0%/1.25, Button was 84%/0%/0.44, and the BB was a little more aggressive at 36%/5%/1.6.

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB checks.

At this loose and rather passive table, I went ahead and limped UTG w/ 88.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, Button folds, BB folds.

I'm not sure about this bet here, but I did have second pair, and didn't have to give someone credit for a Q right away. Given the loose limpers, I figured there was a decent chance I had the best hand, and I wouldn't have minded any overcards folding. I would have folded to a raise.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO caps</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Well, I'm not sure if I'm a lucksack, or not. I spiked my set, but Passive McWon'tBet wakes up and raises me. I 3-bet him, since he might have merely made two pair, but once he capped me, I had a bad feeling I was up against 97o garbage. At least I still had outs to the house.

River: (16.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 19.25 BB

Well, no house for me. This still seems like one I just gotta call on, though, since I couldn't put 2 pair, or a slowplayed 55 or 66 past this guy.

So, how'd I do? I'm mostly curious about the flop bet and the turn 3-bet, but comments on all streets is welcome. No need to be nice. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Dead 03-01-2005 12:09 AM

Re: First post, getting started w/ an 88 hand
 
Bet the river and call a raise.

Looks like you ran into a straight. My guess is 74o.

Niediam 03-01-2005 12:52 AM

Re: First post, getting started w/ an 88 hand
 
I'd play it exactly the same. Looks like villian probably has a straight here but he could have just been slowplaying two pair or a set of 5's or 6's.

wax311 03-01-2005 01:40 AM

Re: First post, getting started w/ an 88 hand
 
It's not a huge deal, but I'd probably also bet the river and call a raise instead of check-calling. CO isn't too passive postflop (1.25) so he's probably a bit more likely to be pushing two pair or a smaller set than he is 97.

akira 03-01-2005 01:47 AM

Re: First post, getting started w/ an 88 hand
 
Am I the only one that doesn't like the flop bet?

You're in early position and betting into 3 people, one of which might have the queen.. I might have checked to see what kind of action takes place.

I play the turn the same.. On the river, since CO is semi-loose, I would maybe put in a raise just in case he is betting a two pair..

Dead 03-01-2005 01:50 AM

Re: First post, getting started w/ an 88 hand
 
It's more likely no one has a queen than someone having one.

Hero has to protect his hand here. Flop bet is good.

akira 03-01-2005 02:01 AM

Re: First post, getting started w/ an 88 hand
 
[ QUOTE ]
It's more likely no one has a queen than someone having one.

Hero has to protect his hand here. Flop bet is good.

[/ QUOTE ]

Fair enough. I guess for me it would depend on the table whether I bet this flop, on a loose table with so many people in I probably wouldn't, but maybe that is weak..

Just curious, would you guys bet out again on the turn if something other than an 8 came?

Dead 03-01-2005 02:03 AM

Re: First post, getting started w/ an 88 hand
 
probly, especially if its like a deuce or another low card.

Niediam 03-01-2005 02:32 AM

Re: First post, getting started w/ an 88 hand
 
Yes, and I would even bet the river if a scare card doesn't come.

DeathDonkey 03-01-2005 06:18 AM

Re: First post, getting started w/ an 88 hand
 
Welcome. Good first post. You played it great IMO. You can bet the river and call a raise against some but you had a read and went with it. I like your thought process throughout the hand. Thank you thank you thank you for betting the flop as not nearly enough people do that and its the easiest bet ever.

-DeathDonkey


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