Ok, so who\'s the moron in this hand? Me or the other guys?
 

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. MP2 posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO caps</font>, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (14 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP1 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (13 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP1 calls, CO calls.

River: (25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 caps</font>, CO calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 37 BB

Re: Ok, so who\'s the moron in this hand? Me or the other guys?
 

you shouldn't have seen this showdown. i think you can fold to CO's turn 3-bet.

CO has AA.
MP1 has 3x or 88

Re: Ok, so who\'s the moron in this hand? Me or the other guys?
 

What exactly did you put those two players on that you had beat after the turn 3-bet.

Re: Ok, so who\'s the moron in this hand? Me or the other guys?
 

I figured on a pair of 8s possibly just 2 overcards. MP1 is very very loose and very aggressive.

CO I figured on AK or AQ.

Re: Ok, so who\'s the moron in this hand? Me or the other guys?
 

You both overplayed this at one point in the hand.
Capping PF at a 10 handed table (even if it is Party) definitely requires AK/AA/KK/QQ (though I haven't played there for a long time). Capping the flop narrows it to AA/KK/QQ. I would call down the turn/river UI. You definitely should not be capping this on the turn and river without the set, considering the PF and flop action. Opponent could easily have AA/KK/TT/88/55; just because they play piss-poor preflop doesn't mean they're as bad from the flop forward.

Oh man it was 3-handed
 

I think I probably would have folded UI on the turn. Only real hand you can beat is JJ, and they can't both have it.

Re: Ok, so who\'s the moron in this hand? Me or the other guys?
 

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Capping PF at a 10 handed table (even if it is Party) definitely requires AK/AA/KK/QQ (though I haven't played there for a long time).

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You haven't played there in a while. A pre-flop cap can come from a wider range of hands than AA/KK/QQ/AK.

But I agree that this hand was overplayed.

Re: Ok, so who\'s the moron in this hand? Me or the other guys?
 

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MP1 is very very loose and very aggressive.

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well, you kind of have to provide this in the first post.. see how that's relevant from our perspective?

Re: Ok, so who\'s the moron in this hand? Me or the other guys?
 

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you shouldn't have seen this showdown. i think you can fold to CO's turn 3-bet.

CO has AA.
MP1 has 3x or 88

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ya unless the CO is a maniac, you are crushed on this turn

Re: Ok, so who\'s the moron in this hand? Me or the other guys?
 

bt: Your right, I'm a bit of a new poster on here.. I'll get it right one of these days!

End result was CO had AA, MP1 true to form had A3o.

Oddly enough I've been seeing the high pocket pairs stacked against eachother with some frequency lately on party.. Probably just dumb luck.

JB