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J_B 02-09-2005 07:33 PM

Folding vs. a 4 flush
 
Is this wrong?

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (8.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

River: (11.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero folds, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 15.25 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG has Jc Ac (two pair, aces and jacks).
MP2 has Qc 2c (one pair, twos).
Outcome: UTG wins 15.25 BB. </font>

Thx,
JB

bigredlemon 02-09-2005 07:35 PM

Re: Folding vs. a 4 flush
 
you have a set. It'd be a crying call but I think you have to call it down. If no one has the straight or flush just 20% of the time, you're making a huge mistake laying it down. Given that it's micro, you'd have to call unless the table is rocks.

Nick Royale 02-09-2005 07:37 PM

Re: Folding vs. a 4 flush
 
I would fold the turn.

Nick Royale 02-09-2005 07:41 PM

Re: Folding vs. a 4 flush
 
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you have a set. It'd be a crying call but I think you have to call it down. If no one has the straight or flush just 20% of the time, you're making a huge mistake laying it down. Given that it's micro, you'd have to call unless the table is rocks.

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To call this river would be bad IMO.

_bustedflush_ 02-09-2005 07:44 PM

Re: Folding vs. a 4 flush
 
By the river you face four to a flush, four to a straight, and two cold. Good fold IMO.

GrunchCan 02-09-2005 07:44 PM

Re: Folding vs. a 4 flush
 
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To call this river would be bad IMO.

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J_B 02-09-2005 07:59 PM

Re: Folding vs. a 4 flush
 
I've learned not to let the 3 flush bug me too much, but geez a four flush and those two were going at it. I usually would think with 2 others in someone will have at least one to the flush.. Of course I guess with these fish who knows.. But the 2 bets back to me is why I folded for 1 I could have made a crying call.. For 2, it's just a bit much I thought.

JB

Nick Royale 02-09-2005 08:05 PM

Re: Folding vs. a 4 flush
 
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I've learned not to let the 3 flush bug me too much, but geez a four flush and those two were going at it. I usually would think with 2 others in someone will have at least one to the flush.. Of course I guess with these fish who knows.. But the 2 bets back to me is why I folded for 1 I could have made a crying call.. For 2, it's just a bit much I thought.


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For one it's an easy call. But when it comes to you betted and raised to you're almost always toast. I think this fold is quite easy.

I think that you should fold the turn as well without reads.

Next time don't post your results until you've got some answers.

Catt 02-09-2005 08:05 PM

Re: Folding vs. a 4 flush
 
I think this is a good fold.

Don't post results with your initial hand post . . . but since you did, can I just offer up that MP2 is one the bigger fucktards I've seen in a while? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

guitarhero14 02-09-2005 08:15 PM

Re: Folding vs. a 4 flush
 
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I would fold the turn.

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I agree.


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