50-100 Vs Solid Pro
 

UTG in this hand is a very solid Pro. Tight, but not ultra-tight...aggressive, but less than the average pro. Reads hands pretty well, hates paying off and not afraid to fold when he thinks he is beat.

So here is the Hand :

New to the game poster in Late position. UTG raises, folded to me in BB and I call with J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. (Note the dead money...I know this is strongly up for debate and I think I fold it here a lot but called this time. Anyways it is up for debate...just try to look at postflop also.)

Flop : Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I check-raise he calls, my plan at this point is to follow through the turn and check-fold most likely if I miss the river. Maybe follow through...thats what I usually do, but it didnt seem right against this guy.

Turn : K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I bet he calls

River 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I check, planning to put in as many raises as possible.

Thoughts?

Re: 50-100 Vs Solid Pro
 

preflop and river are the interesting parts of this hand, but you asked not to get into preflop so i wont.

i think the likely hands for villain to have are JJ TT AK and possibly AQ, or possibly a slowplayed set. If he has a hand like JJ or TT, he will probably check behind on the river. If he had a hand like AK would he raise the turn? would he play a hand like AQ this softly? If he has a set he will raise the river and you will get more bets out of him most likely. Therefore, I think leading is the best play.

Re: 50-100 Vs Solid Pro
 

I didnt ask not to get into pre-flop, I just asked not to ignore post flop. I think pre-flop is kinda interesting, though I assume most wont like it and I am not sure if I do. I really dont think he has a set when he calls the turn. seems he would raise that board and expect me to call.

Re: 50-100 Vs Solid Pro
 

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I check, planning to put in as many raises as possible.

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With a good chance of that being zero. Bet the river and hope that you get raised.

Re: 50-100 Vs Solid Pro
 

Isnt a very good player value betting almost all hands he will call with on the river?

Re: 50-100 Vs Solid Pro
 

The river CR is great.
-James

Re: 50-100 Vs Solid Pro
 

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Isnt a very good player value betting almost all hands he will call with on the river?

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My thoughts exactly. And at that point you've played so strangely he almost has to pay off.
-james

Re: 50-100 Vs Solid Pro
 

I don't know; you checkraise the flop, bet the turn and then check a total blank on the river! That looks really bizarre.

I don't like the check at all. If I were the villan it would seem as if you gave up on your bluff or decided to get fancy on the river.

So if villan had any kind of mediocre hand, which seems likely as you only got called on the turn, if I were him, I would take the free showdown and either beat your busted draw or avoid a checkraise.

If he was slowplaying somthing like a set, by betting out you can get in 3 bets on the river. I think that you wind up either missing a single bet or a 3 bet more than you would get in a checkraise.

Re: 50-100 Vs Solid Pro
 

NO

Re: 50-100 Vs Solid Pro
 

Barry wouldnt he put me on a Q or less and value bet AQ, AK or anything else of value? What hands is he paying off the river bet that he isnt value betting?