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JEM7VSBL 01-31-2005 09:54 PM

TT UTG, Broadway flop...how many mistakes?
 
relatively loose table, UTG+1's stats are 31%/4%/2.67. i felt i played this terribly.

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Preflop: Jem is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Jem raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, Jem calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (15.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Jem bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, MP3 calls, Button calls, BB calls, Jem calls.

<font color="blue"> I think i really should have 3-bet this flop here...but AK seemed so likely to be out there.... </font>

Turn: (12.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, Jem checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP3 calls, Button calls, BB folds, Jem calls.

<font color="blue">i'll call this down hoping to fill up...flush is now possible...</font>

River: (16.75 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Jem checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP3 calls, Button folds, Jem calls.

<font color="blue"> Crying call... </font>

Final Pot: 19.75 BB


I think this hand would have turned out differently if I had 3-bet the flop. Bad line, or is the board scary enough to go into check/call mode?

rmarotti 01-31-2005 10:06 PM

Re: TT UTG, Broadway flop...how many mistakes?
 
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I think i really should have 3-bet this

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Yes.

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but AK seemed so likely to be out there

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I don't think that's true, and if it is 3-bet anyway.

GrekeHaus 01-31-2005 10:14 PM

Re: TT UTG, Broadway flop...how many mistakes?
 
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but AK seemed so likely to be out there

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I don't think that's true, and if it is 3-bet anyway.

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Yep, even if somebody has a straight, you still have 7 outs on the flop and 10 on the turn to make a boat or quads. With this many people still in, you're getting plenty of equity on your flop bets, even if you assume someone has AK. Plus, it's not all that likely that someone has a made straight. Raising the flop here will give you more info. I'd put in as many bets as possible on the flop and bet/raise the turn. If he doesn't slow down on the turn, then you worry about a straight.


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