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lostinthought 01-21-2005 08:30 PM

JJ hand
 
Another irritating JJ hand. What do you do on the turn?
I feel like I am way ahead, or way behind when checked to me. With his stack being the buy in, I just can't see getting away from this given the action.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter

BB ($52.65)
UTG ($72.6)
UTG+1 ($56.05)
UTG+2 ($54.1)
Hero ($146.22)
MP2 ($67.75)
MP3 ($50)
CO ($41)
Button ($72.5)
SB ($7)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. MP3 posts a blind of $1. SB posts a blind of $0.5.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $1, UTG+2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 (poster) folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB (poster) folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls $3.

Flop: ($10.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, UTG+1 calls $10.

Turn: ($30.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, Hero ... ?

Hero bets $20, UTG raises to $40, Hero is all in, Toffeeman is all in.


River: ($111.60) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $111.60
<font color="#009B00">Main Pot: $30.50, between UTG+1 and Hero.</font>

Thanks

amoeba 01-21-2005 09:17 PM

Re: JJ hand
 
I check the turn but maybe I'm weak.

I just don't think AT check calls that flop.

sourbeaver 01-21-2005 09:28 PM

Re: JJ hand
 
I don't see top pair check-calling the flop as amoeba stated, if he's going to back his TP, then he'll probably be afraid of all those overcards that can hijack him, so he will likely bet or raise.

He might call the flop with a set to induce another bet from you (which he plans to raise, as is the case).

I can't put him on 57s calling that raise and flop bet.


I'd check the turn behind to eliminate a street and see his river action. His turn raise puts me in doubt.

lostinthought 01-21-2005 10:16 PM

Re: JJ hand
 
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I just don't think AT check calls that flop.

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What about KTs or QTs?

lostinthought 01-21-2005 10:20 PM

Re: JJ hand
 
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I'd check the turn behind to eliminate a street and see his river action. His turn raise puts me in doubt.

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Glad to see that our previous interaction hasn't kept you from offering advice again. Cheers.

Ok,

So if you check the turn and the same river card comes, and he bets outs. How much are you willing to call?

Thanks.

sourbeaver 01-21-2005 11:41 PM

Re: JJ hand
 
Pot at 30.50 then.

I'd like a read on the player. I'd probably fold to anything over 10-15, unless he's a real LAG.

I have to admit I'm not sure at all about this. [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

lostinthought 01-22-2005 09:23 PM

Re: JJ hand
 
Yeah,
anyways he shows 57s, I guess he deserves the rest of my stack, for calling the preflop raise and flop bet.


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