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rafct 01-21-2005 11:45 AM

QQ hand meets a paired flop
 
Is there a better line?

Royal Vegas 0,10/0,20 - 8 handed

Hero is UTG+2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises, MP calls, MP+2 folds, button
folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop: (7,4 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

UTG checks, Hero bets, MP calls, UTG folds.

TURN: (4,7 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Hero bets, MP raises, Hero calls.

(Give up here?)

River: (8,7 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Hero checks, MP bets, Hero calls.

JordanIB 01-21-2005 11:52 AM

Re: QQ hand meets a paired flop
 
Read-dependent, the only other line I imagine would be folding to the turn raise.

The waiting until the turn to raise on this board definitely smells of something that has you beaten like a drum.

I probalby play it the same way though, because I think I have a big 2BB/hand lead of calling down turn raises and rivers when I'm fairly sure I'm beat.

[ QUOTE ]
Is there a better line?

Royal Vegas 0,10/0,20 - 8 handed

Hero is UTG+2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises, MP calls, MP+2 folds, button
folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop: (7,4 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

UTG checks, Hero bets, MP calls, UTG folds.

TURN: (4,7 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Hero bets, MP raises, Hero calls.

(Give up here?)

River: (8,7 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Hero checks, MP bets, Hero calls.

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LotusBoy 01-21-2005 12:08 PM

Re: QQ hand meets a paired flop
 
Fold the turn, pot is not that big if you have read on him.
Fold the river umimproved.

If no read and no PT data. I sometimes (< 50%) call down and pay for the read, to find out if he cold call PF with a 7 or AJ or just 2 cards.

jskills 01-21-2005 01:05 PM

Re: QQ hand meets a paired flop
 
I put villain on AJ to call your preflop bet.

Folding is pretty tough though. I'm thinking he'd raise the flop with an Ace.

I think I'd play it the same way, calling it down.

droolie 01-21-2005 01:09 PM

Re: QQ hand meets a paired flop
 
Fold to the turn raise. Small pot. He flopped trips or has the A and was looking to keep UTG around on thr flop by slowplaying.

jrz1972 01-21-2005 01:11 PM

Re: QQ hand meets a paired flop
 
Pretty easy fold on the turn. The pot is small, villian has a 7, and its going to cost another 2BBs to see it.


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