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stone_7 01-19-2005 12:08 AM

Am I weak tight now or am I finally learning??
 
Not sure if this fold was correct or not but I would like some feedback. This is a relatively loose crypto table (hence no hand converter) I was relatively new to the table so no real reads yet.

Game #269322354: Texas Hold'em Limit ($1/$2) - 2005/01/19 -
Drifter9: posts small blind $0.50
swizzle: posts big blind $1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Hero [9c Tc]
UTG folds
UTG+1 calls $1
UTG+2 calls $1
MP1 calls $1
MP2 folds
Hero: calls $1
CO folds
sits out
Button folds
SB folds
BB checks
----- FLOP ----- [8h 4s Th]
BB checks
UTG+1 bets $1
UTG+2 calls $1
MP1 raises $2
Hero: folds
BB folds
UTG+1 calls $1
UTG+2 calls $1
----- TURN ----- [8h 4s Th][5s]
UTG+1 checks
UTG+2 checks
MP1 bets $2
UTG+1 calls $2
UTG+1 calls $2
----- RIVER ----- [8h 4s Th 5s][Ks]
UTG+1 checks
UTG+2 checks
MP1 bets $2
UTG+1 folds
UTG+1 calls $2
Final Pot $20.50 Appx 10 big bets
Results in White:
<font color="white">
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Drewman: shows [4d 4h] (Three of a kind, Fours, King high)
conalane: mucks hand
Drewman collected $20.50 from Main pot </font>

droolie 01-19-2005 01:34 AM

Re: Am I weak tight now or am I finally learning??
 
You have top pair but your kicker sucks and you are likely not currently ahead. You have 6.5 outs to two pair or better. Two pair or trip 10's might not even be good here so you have to discount the outs a bit. Lets conservatively say you have 5 outs. There is 8.5SB in the pot. You are getting 4.25:1 to call but with 5 outs you need to be getting 8.2:1. On top of that you might be facing a reraise and cap. In your favor is that if you hit your backdoor str8 you might drag a huge pot but this is highly unlikely.

Clear fold.

dauler 01-19-2005 02:10 AM

Re: Am I weak tight now or am I finally learning??
 
The pot is small, you're facing a bet and a raise with a vulnerable hand which may or may not be good right now and it would be hard to tell when you get drawn out on. I'd think about hanging onto it if there was a preflop raise, but in a small pot it's not worth it.

NoResults 01-19-2005 02:26 AM

Re: Am I weak tight now or am I finally learning??
 
Fold preflop, you lost the hand.

In the future, please do not include results in hand history posts. Even though we are a virtuous bunch here, we cannot always resist the urge to check the results of the hand before providing our analysis. Knowledge of the result may bias our analysis to an overly aggressive line (if you won the hand) or an overly weak one (if you lost). Therefore, to get the best information, please refrain from including the results in the initial post.

If you are interested in comments on an entire hand that you played, post all of the action but leave the results out. If you are interested in a particular action that you took, include all the action up to that point (excluding the specific action you're interested in) and ask "What should I do here?"

Be sure to include any reads you have on your opponents in a hand post, as well as a general read on the table if you have one. Of course, feel free to include the results in a later post after you have received some responses on your play.

Thanks,
NoResults

GimmickAcctJudge 01-19-2005 02:50 AM

Re: Am I weak tight now or am I finally learning??
 
I hereby judge your gimmick account as:

<font color="red"> HELLA LAME </font>


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