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Broken Glass Can 01-11-2005 07:16 AM

If a earthquake/hurricane devastated Nazi Germany, would you send aid?
 
Read this article before you reply.

cardcounter0 01-11-2005 07:35 AM

Re: If a hurricane devastated Nazi Germany, would you send aid?
 
I'll take a stab at it.

The Author states that in the "old days" there was a distinct difference between "good" and "bad" and that people had a "good working moral compass".

She then goes on to criticize the Muslims for wanting Women to confirm to local custom and wear Muslim garb even when they are in their country giving out aid.

I guess she fails to see that the Muslims also have a distinct code of "good" and "bad". It seems women not dressed appropriately is "bad". They also have a "good working moral compass" and will even go so far as to not accept aid from women who are dressed "bad".

So for this, we should comdemn the entire regions and those countries, because their definitions of "good" and "bad" don't match ours.

I think the article also makes mention that we should make sure and punish all prisioners, even if some are innocent, to make sure that no guilty escape punishment. Kind of the opposite argument to the anti-death penality crowd, who think no prisoner should be executed least we mistakenly execute an innocent man.

The author also threw in that all German citizens should have been punished, since the country did evil, and as citizens they were all guilty.

Kind of scary if that same collective guilt were to be wrapped around American citizens, considering the gang of thugs currently in office.

How did I do?

Broken Glass Can 01-11-2005 07:44 AM

Re: If a hurricane devastated Nazi Germany, would you send aid?
 
I don't think the wearing of clothes (head scarves) was the big issue of the article. Did you miss these:

Muslims would rather be dead than touched by a Jew.

Sexual slavery,

slavery,

torture,

forced sexual mutilation,

mass serial murder of Christians,

forced conversion of Christians,

genocide of Christians,

government-sanctioned 'Crimes Against Humanity.'

allows children to be abducted and used as soldiers,

practice apartheid based upon caste discrimination (which also includes slavery,

debt bondage and sexual slavery and abuse),

Persecution of Burmese people,

child sexual enslavement,

slavery (forced labor),

rape of ethnic minority women and children,

sexual slavery and debt bondage.

Broken Glass Can 01-11-2005 07:50 AM

Re: If a hurricane devastated Nazi Germany, would you send aid?
 
[ QUOTE ]
The author also threw in that all German citizens should have been punished, since the country did evil, and as citizens they were all guilty.


[/ QUOTE ]

The author did not say this. I'll let you read it again.

cardcounter0 01-11-2005 08:01 AM

hmmmmm.....
 
Number 3 on your list was torture. Aren't we in favor of that?

How many of those things are current practice, and how many are historical events? As a citizen of a "Christian" Nation, should disaster aid be denied to me because of the atrocities committed by "Christians" during the crusades?

And for some of the other items on your list:

We should deny aid to the discriminated lower caste members, and those children raped and sold into slavery, because they are responsible for helping perpetuate the caste system, child rape, and slavery. Right?

And the children forced into miltary service -- No Aid for you.

Raped ethnic minority women and children -- No Aid for you.

etc., etc. -- No Aid for you.

Ahhhh!!! I see the light. We just need to appoint this woman as Aid Nazi, much like the Seinfield Soup Nazi. Then only people with a faulty moral compass, willing to discard their notions of "good" and "bad" will conform and receive aid. The rest can be punished for their "sins".

cardcounter0 01-11-2005 08:04 AM

Re: If a hurricane devastated Nazi Germany, would you send aid?
 
Please read your own article. I'll let you read it again.


"However, because the majority was engaged in genocide, the very few who did not advocate it would have to suffer Nature's wrath along with the genocidal monsters."

Broken Glass Can 01-11-2005 08:12 AM

Re: hmmmmm.....
 
By the same logic, we must release 10 convicted rapists because one might be innocent. The fact that other people will be raped by the released rapists means such an act will spread misery further. Better to keep the unfortunate innocent man in jail than create multiple new victims.

If we support evil practices in these countries, we are helping create future victims there too.

nicky g 01-11-2005 08:16 AM

Re: hmmmmm.....
 
"By the same logic, we must release 10 convicted rapists because one might be innocent. "

Er, no. Individual criminal cases can be treated individually.

Broken Glass Can 01-11-2005 08:16 AM

Re: If a hurricane devastated Nazi Germany, would you send aid?
 
[ QUOTE ]
the very few who did not advocate it would have to suffer Nature's wrath along with the genocidal monsters

[/ QUOTE ]

Since when is nature's wrath a punishment imposed by us?

You said in your earlier post that we advocated that they should all be punished, that is not the same thing. Is the USA responsible for the whims of nature now?

cardcounter0 01-11-2005 08:17 AM

Re: hmmmmm.....
 
Actually that is almost an exact quote from someone.
Better to let 10 guilty go free than punish an innocent man.

Kind of part of the foundation of "innocent until proven guilty". Sounds better than "kill them all, some of them must be guilty".


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