A4 fold from SB against BB
 

With the stacks the way they were I thought this was a good fold, was wondering what you guys thought. BB was not overly aggresive or loose .

-Pete
It's a 50+5 if that matters
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t300 (5 handed) converter

Hero (t1710)
BB (t5030)
UTG (t725)
MP (t1745)
Button (t790)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG folds, MP folds, Button folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t450

Re: A4 fold from SB against BB
 

I push that in a heartbeat.

Re: A4 fold from SB against BB
 

I assume that you are hoping that the 2 small stack will go out and you can make the top three. The problem with that is they may not go out. They may double up. By playing too tight here you are going to get your stack ate up. Its costing you $450 every 5 hands. Even if you wait for the others to go out, by that time you will be shortstacked yourself. So, your plan is to play extremely tight and POSSIBLY squeak into 3rd. I would push this. The BB is not overly loose so he will probably fold. That way you keep your stack in decent shape while the blinds eat up the shortstacks. When shorthanded with high blinds you need to be aggressive.

Re: A4 fold from SB against BB
 

Your folding equity is pretty big even against him, if he calls and loses, he will take 1/3rd off his stack and be only on equal footing with you.

It's an easy push.

Re: A4 fold from SB against BB
 

I would push that also. My range of push hands at 5BB is pretty wide. The BB has you covered but you still have some fold equity here. These are the range of hands I would seriously consider pushing here. Id be interested to here others comments. I tend to be over aggressive sometimes.

Any A
Any Pair
Kxs
K8+
Suited Connectors
Any 2 Broadway
And probably a handful more of high suited Qs and Js

Re: A4 fold from SB against BB
 

is a min. raise an option with a push on the flop if an A comes or rags, or is my stack to small to pull that off?


-Pete

Re: A4 fold from SB against BB
 

A min raise is just asking for the big stack to play back at you. Push and the majority of times he will fold. If he does call you wont be in that bad of shape.

Re: A4 fold from SB against BB
 

so you guys don't care about the two players with less than T800, because that was my main reason for folding. I figured I'd let them blind off then take some chances when i'm in the money.


-Pete

Re: A4 fold from SB against BB
 

There are exceptions, but generally speaking this is the exact opposite of correct bubble strategy. So luckily you don't have to alter your thinking one bit. Just do the exact opposite of your initial instinct. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Re: A4 fold from SB against BB
 

My reasoning is you are still 5 handed. One or both of the short stacks could double up. I would play more cautious on the bubble with 1 stack in dire straights. But in this scenario I'm being aggressive. Sometimes I find alot of tight passive play when shorthanded. This is a great opportunity to build a stack and challenge the chip leader. Im aggro shorthanded and it works for me but maybe the variance hasnt caught up to me yet.