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partyismad 11-19-2004 03:24 PM

Party has gone WAY too far!!
 
In pursuing this Winholdem crap. Stealing peoples screen shots?????

There are two problems with this:

1) It will be absolutely worthless as a bot countermeasure. It will be simple to slightly adjust your bot so there is no visible evidence on the screen.

2) FOR CHRISSAKES PEOPLE stop being so happy about Winholdem players taking it in the ass and THINK!! Party can just spy on your desktop absolutely??? Think how much sensitive information crosses your desktop! What's next, the keys to the webcam??

This is like 100x worse than the Patriot Act. Party is committing a massive privacy invasion and to top it all off it has ZERO CHANCE of preventing a bot, and to make things worse you people are applauding them!! Have you no wits about you???

write them and tell them what you think: support@partypoker.com

junkmail3 11-19-2004 03:35 PM

Re: Party has gone WAY too far!!
 
Who cares?

"Sensitive information?"

Here's a good scenario for you:
Party wakes up one morning and brushes it's teeth. It comes over to your IP and knocks on the door. Someones' home, but not watching. They take your username/password to your bank account. They transfer all of the money into their account and by a breakfast bagel with it. Mmmm, that was tasty. They buy another.

They do this the next day, because, hey, breakfast bagels (with bacon) are tasty in deed.

About one month later, party has gained a little weight, and someone notices. party gets caught/gets shut down.

They just lost $700 million/year. and all of this for $1000 extra/day.

I'm going to protect all of my 'sensitive information' from party right now!

Phill S 11-19-2004 03:38 PM

Re: Party has gone WAY too far!!
 
its in the T&Cs, nowt you can do.

furthermore, if you dont like it, dont play party. i hear stars is nice this time of year.

in a case of two evils, you choose the lesser.

Phill

LowDown22 11-19-2004 03:43 PM

Re: Party has gone WAY too far!!
 
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It will be absolutely worthless as a bot countermeasure.

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It caught them (and you probably) this time didn't it? So apparently it's not 'absolutely' worthless. And as people find more ways to hide it, Party will come up with more ways to catch them. I could really care less if they take screenshots. I knowingly use their product, they state they may be doing this, and I agree to it and am fine with it.

Phill S 11-19-2004 03:44 PM

Re: Party has gone WAY too far!!
 
err, maybe 'party' wont do this, but mr ahkmed, who makes 5 dollars a day in their indian call centre may if he can get hold of the info.

take some steps to protect yourself, like not writing your passwords clearly, not going on illegal porn whilst playing (sick bastards).

it doesnt take screenshots constantly, only when your online. then you guys can go to girls-horses-and-a-big-tube-of-lube.com

Phill

G Money 11-19-2004 03:52 PM

Re: Party has gone WAY too far!!
 
[ QUOTE ]
then you guys can go to girls-horses-and-a-big-tube-of-lube.com

Phill

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Hold up. They call me stallion not horse. You call me a horse again I beeatch slap you so hard you won't be able to get yo buttah whipped for years.

Now G gotta break down this Party shizzle. Break out a toke, kick back, and ease yo bad self down G lane. Now think of a big ripe bootay.

Feel better?

Jurollo 11-19-2004 03:52 PM

Re: Party has gone WAY too far!!
 
Here is a hypothetical, wouldn't the easiest solution be for party to just get the ongoing processes on your computer? No screenshots of potentially valuable info and would be the most complete tool in stomping out the wave of bots. Is this possible?
~Justin Rollo

moondogg 11-19-2004 03:52 PM

Re: Party has gone WAY too far!!
 
Screenshots of your desktop has nothing to do with it.

Party, and every single other poker client you have installed, and every just about every other non-poker application you have installed, has full access to whatever it wants on your system. Their access rights are limited only by your own access rights. If you are an administrator on the computer and have allowed the application to pass through your firewall (or worse yet, you don't have a firewall), then it can do what it wants.

If you don't like it, unplug your internet connection.

moondogg 11-19-2004 03:55 PM

Re: Party has gone WAY too far!!
 
[ QUOTE ]
Here is a hypothetical, wouldn't the easiest solution be for party to just get the ongoing processes on your computer? No screenshots of potentially valuable info and would be the most complete tool in stomping out the wave of bots. Is this possible?
~Justin Rollo

[/ QUOTE ]

Sure it's possible (with the EnumProcess function). I too am curious why they didn't do this. Then again, I don't know (or care) the exact execution method of WinCrapEm.

Jurollo 11-19-2004 03:58 PM

Re: Party has gone WAY too far!!
 
I'm happy they cracked down, I just thought that tapping a computers processes would be easier, because from the little I know winholdem couldn't make an option to change its process name in real time by the customer. Which would eliminate the options they have to look for.
~Justin Rollo


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