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bblock99 11-18-2004 05:53 PM

Huge read with AA
 
Here's a recent hand at 1/2 6-max.
Hero is dealt A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in MP. UTG open-raises, hero 3-bets, CO and button fold, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop:K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
SB checks, UTG bets, Hero raises, SB calls, UTG calls.
After the SB cold-called two bets, i was sure he was on a flush draw, and i was almost sure that UTG had AK.

Turn: 10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
SB checks, UTG checks, and Hero checks on the read that the SB had the flush. I would have bet had i had the ace of diamonds.

River:6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
SB immediately bets, UTG and hero call.
SB turns over 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and UTG had A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

How'd i do?

runa 11-18-2004 06:34 PM

Re: Huge read with AA
 
I think that if you trusted your read that much, you should've folded the river instead of overcalling. Also, next time don't post the results right away. It detracts from the discussion of the hand.

Rakkad 11-18-2004 06:39 PM

Re: Huge read with AA
 
Those are some pretty amazing reads. so why did you overcall if you knew the SB had a flush?

But back to the hand, bet the turn, you are letting a lone [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] take a free card if you aren't already beat.

You can't always fear a flush just because its out there, he could be calling with anything in 1/2.

runa 11-18-2004 06:45 PM

Re: Huge read with AA
 
It might be even worse than that, any [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], any Q, and anybody already paired up with the hopes of making 2-pair or trips can still beat you. I think that you shouldn't be too focused on making terrific laydowns, especially at this level. Its far worse to make a terrible laydown in a big pot, than to bet and get CR on the turn here. Use those reads instead to sway your decision when its close.

Danenania 11-18-2004 07:44 PM

Re: Huge read with AA
 
If you were planning on calling the river you should have just bet the turn with the plan of folding to a raise from the flush. This costs the same and denies a free card if your read is wrong.

PokerNoob 11-18-2004 08:29 PM

Re: Huge read with AA
 
Ok, so you bet and are called in both places on the turn. River is a non-diamond, non-king, lets even say non-nine. Now what? What if you bet and SB checkraises.

bblock99 11-18-2004 09:22 PM

Re: Huge read with AA
 
Thanks for the input guys, and you all made some great points, especially if they both called the turn and raises the river. Also, i could have been giving the other guy a chance to hit a free flush. The more i think about it the more i dislike the check on the turn...if i was going on my read, i should have bet the turn and if he raised, layed it down. I didn't fold the river because even though i thought i had a good read, i've layed down too many winners on the river for one bet.

ALL1N 11-18-2004 09:39 PM

Re: Huge read with AA
 
[ QUOTE ]
I didn't fold the river because even though i thought i had a good read, i've layed down too many winners on the river for one bet.

[/ QUOTE ]

Herein lies the problem. It's online poker: betting and timing patterns are all you've got.

Peter_rus 11-18-2004 11:57 PM

Re: Huge read with AA
 
You can never have so precise read. And you haven't such a read cause you overcalled (not folded) river.


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