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jek187 11-10-2004 03:11 PM

The Platinum Poker Club to be Blacklisted
 
As some of you may know, PremierPokerProps managed props for The Platinum Poker Club in August and September. PremierPokerProps pay for doing this was a X% override on the total prop's pay (prop pay was a 100% rake back.) Dating back to work done in August, PremierPokerProps is still owed funds. For the majority of our props, PremierPokerProps has only been paid 75% of what they are owed. However, there are a handful of props that The Platinum Poker Club has not paid anything for.

They have been given over two months to resolve these issues, and have not. Many times my emails were ignored, and only after much pestering was I able to obtain any response. On November 2nd, they were sent an ultimatum to either make serious headway on our outstanding issues in one week, or face the saga going public on BW, 2+2, and getting blacklisted on BW. The total due is not a terribly large sum (just a few hundred) so I find it greatly distressing that they have chosen to let this happen.

I hope this information enables everyone to make a more informed decision of where to play.

Pokeraddict 11-10-2004 03:17 PM

Re: The Platinum Poker Club to be Blacklisted
 
IMO these people were shady from day one, even just recently I played in a point freeroll and the software failed to merge the games as the tables dropped and ended up with 2 tables with 1 person at it. The next time I played people at other tables were never transfered to table 1 and thus were kicked from tournament without prizes still having chips. To my knowledge they never corrected these issues of these games and wrongfully awarded prized to people who did not place.

GrannyMae 11-10-2004 03:57 PM

Re: The Platinum Poker Club to be Blacklisted
 
The total due is not a terribly large sum (just a few hundred) so I find it greatly distressing that they have chosen to let this happen.


imo, this is more distressing than if the amounts were higher. a higher figure owed to you could be explained by the fact that they are having financial problems. nickel and diming you for pennies shows an utter lack of class and integrity.

i would not play this room if they staked me with house funds.

jek187 11-10-2004 05:31 PM

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The total due is not a terribly large sum (just a few hundred) so I find it greatly distressing that they have chosen to let this happen.


imo, this is more distressing than if the amounts were higher. a higher figure owed to you could be explained by the fact that they are having financial problems. nickel and diming you for pennies shows an utter lack of class and integrity.


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I was of the school of thought that the small figure was more distressing because with a large figure, they could think the benefits of not paying outweigh the cost (tons of bad publicity.) However, with such a small figure involved, it makes me think that they can't pay.

Either way, it's not pretty.

Pokeraddict 11-10-2004 08:32 PM

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The total due is not a terribly large sum (just a few hundred) so I find it greatly distressing that they have chosen to let this happen.


imo, this is more distressing than if the amounts were higher. a higher figure owed to you could be explained by the fact that they are having financial problems. nickel and diming you for pennies shows an utter lack of class and integrity.


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I was of the school of thought that the small figure was more distressing because with a large figure, they could think the benefits of not paying outweigh the cost (tons of bad publicity.) However, with such a small figure involved, it makes me think that they can't pay.

Either way, it's not pretty.

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I would have to agree with this. Remember the ton of money they dropped at first and all the hype without having to be too much of a spammer. Then the ridiculous rules came out, the shady practices. My favorite is still the 100 raked hands requirement after you have made a player to player transfer. Something I never found in their rules and a question they would never answer directly was why have a rule like that, especially one that is not disclosed until the receiver tries to cash out.

You must think that they do not have the money to pay. Have they ever denied owing this money to you Jek?

At 7:30pm ET they have 1 4 handed game going, a .02/.04 NL game.

Another Dobrosoft room biting the dust, does it smell like Choice Poker yet? Owing a few hundred for months spells doom to me.

GrannyMae 11-10-2004 08:36 PM

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nahhh. for a couple hundred, the sites' owner pays you off cuz the bad press can be halted or slowed on the cheap. he would pay you out of his own checking account. at least that's how i would do it.

not paying such a small sum seems defiant to me. the only way i think it is cuz of being broke is if all the operators had literally run off.

GrannyMae 11-10-2004 08:40 PM

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Something I never found in their rules and a question they would never answer directly was why have a rule like that, especially one that is not disclosed until the receiver tries to cash out.

wow. i kinda like this idea! i hate that they did not disclose it, but i like the concept.

i think this would make it much harder for scumbags to collude with fake accounts and multiple aliases.

none of the players would go for it though, but it is certainly unique.

jek187 11-11-2004 02:04 PM

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Have they ever denied owing this money to you Jek?

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No, they haven't. Our correspondence normally went something like this.

Me: You owe me money for this, this, and that.
Me: It's been 3 days, and I haven't got a response.
Me: It's been a week, and I haven't got a response.
Them: I'm sorry, i don't understand
Me: You owe me money for this, this and that (in different words.)
Me: It's been 3 days, and I haven't got a response.
Me: It's been a week, and I haven't got a response.
Them: You need to email this guy tppcguy@tppp.com
Me: You owe me money for this, this, and that.
Me: It's been 3 days, and I haven't got a response.
Me: It's been a week, and I haven't got a response.
Them: I'm sorry, i don't understand
Me: You owe me money for this, this and that (in different words.)
Me: It's been 3 days, and I haven't got a response.
Me: It's been a week, and I haven't got a response.
Them: I'm sorry, you need to talk to the 1st person you were emailing.

You get the idea.

jek187 11-11-2004 03:31 PM

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not paying such a small sum seems defiant to me. the only way i think it is cuz of being broke is if all the operators had literally run off.

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My original contact at TPPC (who was actually quite good) appeared to have quit/got fired from TPPC awhile back. An operator run off would hardly shock me at this point.

Pokeraddict 11-11-2004 03:41 PM

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An operator run off would hardly shock me at this point.

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Choice?????


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