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crockpot 10-28-2004 08:38 PM

i\'m supposed to 3-bet this river, right?
 
MP and Button are the reasons I'm sitting at the table. feel free to critique the flop play if you feel raising is better against this type of opponent, but i'm mainly interested in the river.

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $5.
MP calls, Button calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, UTG (poster) folds, MP calls, Button calls.

Flop: (7.40 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls, MP calls.

Turn: (5.20 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP calls, Button calls.

River: (14.20 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls, MP calls.

Final Pot: 20.20 BB

jrobb83 10-28-2004 08:45 PM

Re: i\'m supposed to 3-bet this river, right?
 
Yeah, 3-bet. Especially with the 4-bet cap. You're only risking 2 bets to gain at least 2, probably more. The only hand that beats you is a 2, and they will even cap with less than that.

DrGutshot 10-28-2004 08:49 PM

Re: i\'m supposed to 3-bet this river, right?
 
most definetly 3bet

imitation 10-28-2004 08:58 PM

Re: i\'m supposed to 3-bet this river, right?
 
Yes cap the river, the flop play is fine, a rare example of acceptable slowplaying.

Scotch78 10-29-2004 02:53 AM

Re: i\'m supposed to 3-bet this river, right?
 
[ QUOTE ]
the flop play is fine, a rare example of acceptable slowplaying.

[/ QUOTE ]

If he hadn't raised pre-flop I'd agree, but I'm guessing he could get in a raise and they'd think he's just following through.

Scott

imitation 10-29-2004 03:22 AM

Re: i\'m supposed to 3-bet this river, right?
 
I want MP to call so there is a greater chance that someone will hit some garbage hand on the turn.

Scotch78 10-29-2004 03:24 AM

Re: i\'m supposed to 3-bet this river, right?
 
Ugh, even my posting is subject to slight tilt. I didn't even notice the overcaller [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Scott

crockpot 10-29-2004 09:14 AM

Re: i\'m supposed to 3-bet this river, right?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I want MP to call so there is a greater chance that someone will hit some garbage hand on the turn.

[/ QUOTE ]

if it makes you feel better about your analysis, MP mucked 55. "Button" showed AA and MHIG. (the positions are clearly wrong from the hand converter, as i was last to act every round.)

BlueBear 10-29-2004 09:20 AM

Re: i\'m supposed to 3-bet this river, right?
 
I disagree with the other posters here, I feel it's better to call to obtain an overcall from the MP without the risk of being reraised by quads. Calling gets you 1 extra bet while 3-betting probably gets you an 1 extra bet too with the added risk of being 4-bet.


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