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naphand 10-11-2004 02:44 PM

Folding TP Heads Up
 
TABLE CONDTIONS:
This is an aggressive and tricky table, a couple of loose players. Opponent here was mediocre, V$IP 35% PFR 4%, which is tighter than most, he called down too often with any bit of the board, esp. a raggy board against an aggro player (maybe not so wrong). PT shows AF of 3.5 on the Turn, which was clearly his preferred weapon. My image is tight and aggressive and opponent is aware what a PF raise means.


Ultimate Bet 2/4 Hold'em (5 handed) converter

Preflop: Naphand is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG folds, MP folds, Button folds, SB completes, <font color="CC3333">Naphand raises</font>, SB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">Naphand bets</font>, SB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">Naphand bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">SB raises</font>, Naphand calls.

River: (7 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets</font>, Naphand calls.

Final Pot: 9 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 9 BB, between Naphand and SB.</font>


At the time I figured he likely had a bit of that flop, to call me in this spot, maybe he folds to a Turn bet. I catch and he fearlessly CR. Surely he knows I very likely have a good A? The limp/call/CR looked so much like Ax 2-pair. It's only a 6BB pot after the raise. Who lays it down?


Results in white below: <font color="white">
SB has Ah 4s (two pair, aces and fours).
Naphand has As 9h (one pair, aces).
Outcome: SB wins 9 BB. </font>

No peeking... [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

Guy McSucker 10-11-2004 02:50 PM

Re: Folding TP Heads Up
 
I never lay this down. Maybe I should. I will be very interested in responses from people who play better than I do.

Guy.

Benjamin 10-11-2004 03:24 PM

Re: Folding TP Heads Up
 
I won't fold there unless I have a clear read that the turn raise means TPTK or better from this particular player. Against your average tricky aggressive mediocre low limit 6-max UB player I think I'll win easily often enough to call down.

B.

fsuplayer 10-11-2004 08:37 PM

Re: Folding TP Heads Up
 
i call this almost everytime, he could easily be using the ace as a scare card.

fsuplayer

joker122 10-11-2004 08:50 PM

Re: Folding TP Heads Up
 
Seems pretty standard to me.

MisterKing 10-12-2004 12:00 AM

Re: Folding TP Heads Up
 
Haven't peeked yet, but I smell a TP+Draw on his part... either an OESD or A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] X[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. While two pair is possible, I'm trying to punish on the flop when I hit my first pair if I'm him -- that board doesn't help too many tight/aggro PF raisers, as you describe yourself. So I'd discount the possibility of two pair at least somewhat.

I'll go back &amp; look, but my play here is similar to yours on 4th &amp; 5th. If I'm feeling particularly frisky, I'll 3-bet the turn.

naphand 10-12-2004 07:21 AM

Re: Folding TP Heads Up
 
My PokerTRacker database shows me as a "good player"... [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Of course I have not set any definition for this category, and it does not auto-update... [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

King_J 10-12-2004 07:55 AM

Re: Folding TP Heads Up
 
[ QUOTE ]
My PokerTRacker database shows me as a "good player"... [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]


[/ QUOTE ]

How do you see that in the tracker?
Thanks

naphand 10-12-2004 07:58 AM

Re: Folding TP Heads Up
 
I give myself the money-bags icon and label it "good player".

Arf-arf.

King_J 10-12-2004 11:15 AM

Re: Folding TP Heads Up
 
Hahah okey. I thought there way a way for the tracker too see how much money you have made, bb/100, agression factor and such things.

I guess not [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]


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