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jjb108 10-05-2004 11:40 PM

10,000 hand check up - Any pointers
 
Here are my PT stats after ~10,000 hands for PP 25 NL. This includes some horrible early play. How is the $$/100 relative to the average 2+2er?

Any thoughts on other PT stats to check at 10,000 hands?

Top Hands in order for most $$
KK,QQ,AK,AA,A6s (wtf?),A8o,99 (think I have some work to do on pockets)

Reported to 4 decimal places to ensure highest accuracy in assessment
[img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

won_amt 614.75
hands_played 10288
bb_100_sum 5.9754
vpip_sum 27.5369
pfr_sum 13.3942
wsd_sum 49.945
vpip_sb 47.0769
sf_all 31.0556
sf_no_blind 22.4487

I've been getting better and have noticed I play pockets horribly and raise a lot. Is the PFR too high?

Thanks in advance for your (hopefully constructive) critiques.

jjb108 10-06-2004 12:13 AM

Re: 10,000 hand check up - Any pointers
 
Last 5000 hands look better.

Hands 4954
VP$IP 24.18
VPSB 43.68 (any comments here? seems high)

Saw Flop All 27.05
Saw Flop not a blind 19.29

Win rate 9.48 BB/100

Showdown 26%
Won $ at SD 55%


Best hands KK, AK, AA, QQ, A8o, 99

Looks like I am getting a bit better...but smaller sample size.

Comments on these?

B1GF1SHY 10-06-2004 03:03 AM

Re: 10,000 hand check up - Any pointers
 
Is this 6max? VP$IP seems really high to me.

Ben 10-06-2004 10:31 AM

Re: 10,000 hand check up - Any pointers
 
Yeah, I'm thining this must be 6-max.

Your VP$IP and PFR seem quite out of whack for 10-max. Even for 6-max that PFR looks way too high to me.

-Ben

GimmeDaWatch 10-06-2004 11:37 AM

Re: 10,000 hand check up - Any pointers
 
Im sure its 6-max, my VPIP is about the same, maybe a point lower. My winrate is similar, as I started off great at about 20+ BB/100 for 2,500 hands and then broke even for about 4k hands. Its real up and down and I think you need 30-40k to really get a decent idea. I dont raise PF nearly as much (only about 3%) but I should probably raise a little more, and you a little less.

jjb108 10-06-2004 10:13 PM

No its actually 10max. am I an LAG???
 
Believe it or not this is all 10 max hands.

Here's my 6 max data. I don't play 6 max. much.

2080 hands
VP$IP 47.40
WR -5.99BB/100
PFR 26.20

Wow, I suck. This looks like LAG/Maniac stats...no wonder I lose.

Given the response to the 10 max. data. I'm in trouble there as well.

However, given the loose nature at party, isn't it better to play more hands and release after the flop. Often you get paid off more than enough to make the hands +EV???

If not, what are the general targets to shoot for...I agree the PFR has to go down.

I'm afraid I just made a few 2+2 buddy lists!

LokiV 10-06-2004 10:33 PM

Re: No its actually 10max. am I an LAG???
 
AGGGHHHHHH. What kind of hands are you playing?!?! I'm sorry K/8 os is not a good hand. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

jjb108 10-06-2004 10:46 PM

Re: No its actually 10max. am I an LAG???
 
Actually, its A8o, not that its that much better. Here's the hand that put it in my winners. My V$IP with A8o is 34%. Still too high. Its also an easy hand to get away from post flop. Well, enough of the denial.

What would people do with this hand...fold to the PFR?

Here's what I know about the villian. VP$IP ~45%. PFR 23%. I've seen about 20 hands. I'd say maniac.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (7 handed) converter

UTG ($90.25)
MP1 ($62.05)
MP2 ($49.25)
CO ($15.50)
Button ($54.35)
Hero ($44.95)
BB ($76.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="666666">5 folds</font>, Hero completes, <font color="CC3333">BB raises to $2</font>, Hero calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets $3.8</font>, <font color="CC3333">BB raises to $7.6</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to $11.4</font>, BB calls $3.80.

Turn: ($26.80) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, <font color="CC3333">BB raises to $62.85</font>, Hero calls $21.55 (All-In).

River: ($121.20) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $121.20

Results in white below: <font color="white">
BB has Ks Jd (one pair, nines).
Hero has Ac 8h (two pair, aces and nines).
Outcome: Hero wins $89.90. BB wins $31.30. </font>

Muisyle 10-06-2004 10:48 PM

Re: No its actually 10max. am I an LAG???
 
Bah, nm.

LokiV 10-06-2004 11:03 PM

Re: No its actually 10max. am I an LAG???
 
FOLD IT PREFLOP UNLESS BIG BLIND.

Question answered.

Note: You then toss it to a raise unless it would be a SB steal and that is the only time you'd have position on a player.


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