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Prevaricator 09-30-2004 01:44 AM

How do you play this JJ hand
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (8 handed)

Button ($333.30)
SB ($579.90)
BB ($600)
UTG ($244.70)
UTG+1 ($264.75)
MP1 ($1158.45)
Hero ($540.35)
CO ($628.25)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="CC3333">UTG raises to $12</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="CC3333">MP1 raises to $18</font>, Hero calls $18, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls $6.

Flop: ($63) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">UTG bets $6</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP1 raises to $12</font>, Hero calls $12, UTG calls $6.

Turn: ($99) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="CC3333">MP1 bets $12</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to $48</font>, UTG calls $48, MP1 calls $36.

River: ($243) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="CC3333">MP1 bets $150</font> ...

Comments on any of the streets? What do you do on the river?

theBruiser500 09-30-2004 01:56 AM

Re: How do you play this JJ hand
 
I might raise preflop with position, those minraises don't mean much. Why on earth wouldn't you raise that flop??? WHAT IS THE MINRAISE ON THE TURN FOR???

Jon Matthews 09-30-2004 07:22 AM

Re: How do you play this JJ hand
 
I raise twice the pot on the flop to about $200 and if I was any shallower I push. Not allowing anyone to draw here and min bet/raise play is just annoying. No one will believe you have KT and a worse hand like AK or AQ will call in that case. If it's set over set then so be it - it's not like you had 222 on a AQ2 flop.


Jon.

Piz0wn0reD!!!!!! 09-30-2004 08:37 AM

Re: How do you play this JJ hand
 
Raise the flop. Normally i dont rereraise pre flop here. That can make some trouble. W/ JJ or TT in this kind of situation (unless the raisers are huge LAGs) i basically CC and play them for set value. IMO TT is the hardest NL hand to play. JJ is very similar. Just raise the flop next time.

schwza 09-30-2004 10:04 AM

Re: How do you play this JJ hand
 
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I might raise preflop with position, those minraises don't mean much. Why on earth wouldn't you raise that flop??? WHAT IS THE MINRAISE ON THE TURN FOR???

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it's not literally a min-raise, but it's way too small. make it 100 to go at least.

turnipmonster 09-30-2004 11:24 AM

Re: How do you play this JJ hand
 
dude, not raising the flop is maybe ok. not dropping the hammer on the turn is just criminal.

--turnipmonster

gcoutu 09-30-2004 12:11 PM

Re: How do you play this JJ hand
 
I'm with the majority here...raise the flop big and get lots of action from the AQ that is on the board. I think the pre-flop play is ok, but I would take over on the flop and turn.

TStoneMBD 09-30-2004 04:38 PM

Re: How do you play this JJ hand
 
if youre going to raise on the turn youre better off doing it on the flop. i think you lost to a higher set here, but at least you would have found out where you were at if you raised the flop.

schwza 09-30-2004 04:44 PM

Re: How do you play this JJ hand
 
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if youre going to raise on the turn youre better off doing it on the flop. i think you lost to a higher set here, but at least you would have found out where you were at if you raised the flop.

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but AQ and AJ are going to play this hand similarly to AA and QQ.

Prevaricator 09-30-2004 05:09 PM

Re: How do you play this JJ hand
 
Do you think AQ is going to lead out on the river for a large portion of the pot? What range of hands could he be doing that with


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