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KingFourOff 09-27-2004 07:57 PM

Dealer Tipping @ foxwoods
 
So I tipped the dealer when I was at foxwoods every time I won a substantially raised pot, or if I was taking down a string of a few hands in a row, even if the pots weren't huge. Because this was basically the etiquette I saw at Atlantic city. (borgata 2/5 NL)

I very seldom saw other people tipping and one dealer told me no one ever tipped her. Is dealer tipping not as customary in Foxwoods as it is in AC? How much should I tip?

kpux 09-27-2004 08:20 PM

Re: Dealer Tipping @ foxwoods
 
I almost never tip at Foxwoods and nobody ever says anything. They're just doing their job, they didn't help you win the hand. However, I will say that if a dealer is extremely friendly/funny/livens up the table a little I'll tip him. But never based on the cards he dealt me. To me, that's just admitting that you don't understand the game.

The Ocho 09-27-2004 08:49 PM

Re: Dealer Tipping @ foxwoods
 
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almost never tip at Foxwoods and nobody ever says anything. They're just doing their job, they didn't help you win the hand

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This attitude of players, along with the fact that Foxwoods pools tips, explains why the majority of dealers at Foxwoods are pretty lousy. Would you wait tables in a restaurant where nobody tipped you?

To suggest that tipping dealers is tantamount to admitting a fundamental misunderstanding of poker is absolutely absurd. You are simply trying to justify being a cheapskate.

JoeU 09-27-2004 08:51 PM

Re: Dealer Tipping @ foxwoods
 
Many players don't tip at Foxwoods because the tips are pooled among ALL dealers, including blackjack etc (as far as I know). Many people don't like tipping when they know that money goes to the crappy dealers just as much as it does to the good dealers.

My personal rule of thumb on tipping is I tip when I win a decent pot at the showdown, or if I win a big pot earlier. Pots that get checked to the river or small pots that are won with a flop bet don't get tipped. Just a personal rule.

Joe

BigBaitsim (milo) 09-27-2004 08:56 PM

Re: Dealer Tipping @ foxwoods
 
I've played 8 or 9 casinos in Vegas and at Canterbury Park. Dealers work for $5.15 an hour plus tips and tipping is expected. Typical is a buck a pot, except for the 2/4, where many tip $0.50. Tourists tip much more sometimes, retirees tend to be stingy. When stiffed, few dealers will mention it, but at one touristy table at Mandalay a new dealer went three hands without a tip. On the fourth tip, he dropped the chip loudly into the empty tip cup and commented on the sad and empty sound it made. Although he could have come off like an ass, he actually came off being fairly civilized and decent. The two of us at the table with any real experience told the newbies about tipping, and each chucked the dealer a buck or two.

EDIT: At all the places I asked in Vegas and at Canterbury, dealers keep their own tips.

jayadd 09-27-2004 09:06 PM

Re: Dealer Tipping @ foxwoods
 
heres the thing about tipping dealers. Right now there is a shortage of dealers in many casinos especially good dealers. If you want to continue to wait 3 hours for a game at a place like foxwoods or borgota then continue to insult and degrate dealers till there arent enough to go around.

Dealers are treated like $hit and who wants to do a job that your treated that way for minimium wages.

Now to defend the players a little the dealers need to remember that you need to continue to learn and keep up to date with the poker world. I see many dealers getting into the box without really knowing the rules of the game. This is where management needs to step into and have some kind of retraining at least once a year.

the triangle doesnt connect without all three pieces working together.

Player
Dealer
management

toots 09-27-2004 09:14 PM

Re: Dealer Tipping @ foxwoods
 
I tip a buck on any decent sized pot; two bucks for a huge pot. Four bucks the one time I got a royal flush.

Ok, I'm generous. So sue me.

If I'm in a really good mood, I'll tip a dealer at the start of his down, as a sort of free "introductory offer" tip.

They don't seem bothered by it at all.

Ok, I'm definitely a soft touch. Life's short. Spread the happiness.

radek2166 09-27-2004 09:38 PM

Re: Dealer Tipping @ foxwoods
 
Tip early and tip often is my rule of thumb. I look at it like a bartender. They have to sit there and listen to you whineeeeeeee about your miserable life. The guy that said he never tips is probably the same guy I see at the tables whineing about his bad beats. And also tips the waitres more than she deserves cause shes good looking wearing skimpy clothes.

Barry 09-27-2004 11:35 PM

Re: Dealer Tipping @ foxwoods
 
I tip the dealer $1 when I win a pot, so long as someone calls a flop bet. If I win 2 pots in a row, without a flop bet called, I tip them $1 the second pot. Sometimes more if it's a big pot. When I won the BB jackpot ($3K) a while back, I tipped the dealer $100.

It depends on what your expectations are, but I certainly view tipping as a +EV move with everybody (not just dealers).

I always tip everybody a little on the high side.

The valet, the doorman, the bellman, the floor (if they accept), the waitresses, and the dealers.

You get your car taken care of and brought around quickly, great service at the hotel, quick seating at a table, your drinks at the proper frequency without even asking, and even the benefit of the doubt from the dealer in a dispute.

It's much better to be thought of as nice with a touch of generosity than as surly and cheap.

And yes Tommy, I do it not only to be "thought of" that way, but it's just better to "be" that way anyway.

Try it, you'll feel better and be treated better.

SuitedSixes 09-28-2004 12:30 AM

Tipping
 
I subscribe to the $1 a win policy. However, right now, I only play games with $1 chips. What happens when you play games with bigger chips? Does the policy then become $5, $25 a win? Just wanna know.


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