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SnakeRat 08-24-2004 11:02 PM

93 Sooted, Standard?
 
CO is pretty aggressive.
No read on MP1.


Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, MP1 calls, MP3 folds, CO folds.

Turn: (5 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls.

River: (7 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>


Standard?

Richard Berg 08-24-2004 11:08 PM

Re: 93 Sooted, Standard?
 
Fold preflop but it's not a huge mistake. Rest is standard (I might check the turn if CO were passive).

pokerkai 08-24-2004 11:15 PM

Re: 93 Sooted, Standard?
 
Ya...not crazy about the complete.
At 2/4 its a small mistake cuz its only one dollar more...
but at 3/6 it can turn into a bad leak.

SnakeRat 08-24-2004 11:20 PM

Re: 93 Sooted, Standard?
 
NPA says its correct to play any 2 suited in this spot.

I don't understand why it is a mistake.

wacki 08-24-2004 11:27 PM

Re: 93 Sooted, Standard?
 
[ QUOTE ]
NPA says its correct to play any 2 suited in this spot.

I don't understand why it is a mistake.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm not sure what NPA is, but I did see this starting hand in Small Stakes Hold'em. So I'm thinking it's correct. But at the same time, it's asking for trouble because it's such a weak hand. I personally don't know.

SnakeRat 08-24-2004 11:29 PM

Re: 93 Sooted, Standard?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I'm not sure what NPA is, but I did see this starting hand in Small Stakes Hold'em.

[/ QUOTE ]

This made me smile.

NPA=Noted Poker Authority, Ed Miller

MAxx 08-24-2004 11:30 PM

Re: 93 Sooted, Standard?
 
I think pf is fine at this level. I think flop and turn look standard. My only question, which I am not immediatley sure of is whether your river bet was a proper value bet. The question in my mind is to what degree would you expect the villain to call your river bet with a worse hand. I think for me, this is a little read dependant. If I thought that he would over 55% of the time, then good value bet.

Richard Berg 08-25-2004 12:05 AM

Re: 93 Sooted, Standard?
 
[ QUOTE ]
NPA says its correct to play any 2 suited in this spot.

I don't understand why it is a mistake.

[/ QUOTE ]
I don't have SSH nearby, but I doubt it recommends 93s with only 3 limpers. I want some connectedness or high card value in this spot (96s/K2s would be easy calls). Remember you're playing out of position, so when you flop something marginal you have the additional worry of getting action raised back to you. This can make it more obvious when to fold, but it also reduces your EV.

MAxx 08-25-2004 12:21 AM

Re: 93 Sooted, Standard?
 
Check out bottom of page 91/ top of page 92. I am pretty sure that SSH recommends playing loosely in the 1/2 structure from the small blind. By loosley, I/they mean completing SB with any pp or any suited garbage.


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