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oafcmetty 08-23-2004 04:54 AM

UB $10 tourney - comment on my play
 
Hand #2451981-39 at Sun3pmB-002 (No Limit tournament Hold'em) Powered by UltimateBet Started at 22/Aug/04 15:34:26

Player1 is at seat 0 with 1875.
Player2 is at seat 1 with 1505.
Player3 is at seat 2 with 1250.
Player4 is at seat 3 with 685.
Player5 is at seat 4 with 3325.
Player6 is at seat 5 with 1865.
Player7 is at seat 6 with 930.
oafcmetty is at seat 7 with 1210.
Player9 is at seat 8 with 2430.
Player10 is at seat 9 with 745.
The button is at seat 0.

Player2 posts the small blind of 15.
Player3 posts the big blind of 30.

Player1: -- --
Player2: -- --
Player3: -- --
Player4: -- --
Player5: -- --
Player6: -- --
Player7: -- --
oafcmetty: Js As
Player9: -- --
Player10: -- --

Pre-flop:

Player4 folds. Player5 folds. Player6 folds.
Player7 folds. oafcmetty raises to 60. Player9 folds. Player10 folds. Player1 calls. Player2 folds. Player3 calls.

Flop (board: Jh 3d 2s):

Player3 checks. oafcmetty bets 120. Player1 folds.
Player3 calls.

Turn (board: Jh 3d 2s Tc):

Player3 checks. oafcmetty bets 250. Player3
calls.

River (board: Jh 3d 2s Tc 8s):

Player3 goes all-in for 820. oafcmetty goes all-in
for 780. Player3 is returned 40 (uncalled).

Tournament all-in showdown -- players show:

Player3 shows 4c 5c.
oafcmetty shows Js As.




Showdown:

Player3 has 4c 5c Jh Tc 8s: jack high.
oafcmetty has Js As Jh Tc 8s: a pair of jacks.


Hand #2451981-39 Summary:

No rake is taken for this hand.
oafcmetty wins 2495 with a pair of jacks.
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oafcmetty 08-26-2004 08:09 AM

Re: UB $10 tourney - comment on my play
 
*bump*

no comments?

Bernas 08-26-2004 09:30 AM

Re: UB $10 tourney - comment on my play
 
When you open you should be opening for 90 not 60.
Other than that, it looks like he is a retard. He was chasing 8 outs. Be happy you took his money.

doubleas 08-26-2004 04:16 PM

Re: UB $10 tourney - comment on my play
 
The river bet was either a missed draw bluff or a made hand trying to look like a bluff. I probably would've been pushed off this hand myself in a bigger buy-in tournament where I suspected my opponents for intelligence.

TPTK is not the hand for me to go broke with on the river unless you have a read on the opponent or the pot is already too significant for you to drop. If the opponent would have bet 500, would you have called? Did you call just because he overbet the pot?

This early in a low buy-in event, I think your call is the right move for a check/call/check/call/overbet.

gergery 08-26-2004 05:07 PM

Re: UB $10 tourney - comment on my play
 

I raise more preflop, to what your standard raise at this blind level is. For me that’s probably 100. Minraising to 60 just encourages callers, gives them better odds, and makes it harder to define their hands.

On flop you bet 120 at 200 pot. That’s too little. You should bet whatever your standard “I like this flop” bet is. That needs to be pot size or slightly less at this blind level. I bet around 175 at this pot, mainly because I’ll be betting just under pot size at every flop I want to bet at and don’t want to leak info. Bets need to be potsize-ish to avoid giving good odds to drawing hands. Note here that you are willing to go to the showdown, and his straightdraw is a 1 in 7 shot to improve on 1 card, meaning he has correct implied odds to call you here with this betsize.

On turn, you bet 250 into 430 pot, again underbetting.

On river, his pattern of chk-call, chk-call, all-in screams overpair or set. Against good opponents this is easy fold. Early stages of low-buyin tho, he could have QJ or other crap, so call not bad. He would not call to river on the straightdraw

Net: not great play but not bad, and it worked out for you

patrick dicaprio 08-26-2004 07:11 PM

Re: UB $10 tourney - comment on my play
 
you should almost never minraise here. you are offering the BB good odds to call no matter how trashy his hand is here since he can win the 45 blinds plus your 60 for only 30 even if no one else is in and if he has a suited connector he is getting good imnplied odds. i would call here if i were him with 72 in the hopes of busting you.

good read on the river. your opponent is obciously a bad player since he has to know you have a good enough hand to bet the flop and turn and the river is essentially a blank.

Pat

ron dogg 08-26-2004 09:22 PM

Re: UB $10 tourney - comment on my play
 
Min. raise is bad. Make it 90 or 100. Just make it consistant. Now out of position, I make a pot sized bet. You had someone trailing you so your bet was a touch light.

You have position on the lone player on the turn, so I like the turn bet. People at these and higher buy ins play middle pocket pairs all the time checking calling and praying that you have AK or AQ.

The river smells fishy. If he was so strong he probably ck raises the turn. This is read dependant of course. At at 10 dollar table, my chips beat his into the pot. I really don't think the river overbet screams anything but the attempt to buy. A turn CKR by a tough player puts me through a tougher decision and on a board of this texture I might actually fold.

Good read.

That is all,
R-

oafcmetty 08-29-2004 03:24 PM

Re: UB $10 tourney - comment on my play
 
Thanks for the thoughts all...


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