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TheGrifter 08-20-2004 02:23 AM

Stars 5/10NL game is soft
 
So, I'm screwing around with the little bit of money I have at stars, decide to buy in for the min. at 5/10NL. First time I got up to 400, and a guy called a 375 dollar raise preflop with AQo. Then I rebuy for a couple hundred more and this hand comes up...lots of loose calls preflop in this game..BBuddy had Q5


Dealer: Starting new hand: #628979236
Dealer: B Buddy posts small blind $5
Dealer: riverthenuts posts big blind $10
Dealer: Dealing Hole Cards
Dealer: DOTTT folds
Dealer: nycsundevil calls $10
Dealer: murphstahoe folds
Dealer: lunatico calls $10
Dealer: DaGrifter calls $10
Dealer: blitzforce calls $10
Dealer: DOTTT leaves the table
Dealer: kdhspyder calls $10
Dealer: B Buddy raises $90 to $100
Dealer: riverthenuts folds
Dealer: nycsundevil folds
Dealer: lunatico folds
Dealer: DaGrifter raises $185.75 to $285.75 and is all-in
Dealer: blitzforce folds
Dealer: kdhspyder folds
Dealer: B Buddy calls $185.75
Dealer: Dealing Flop: [4c Kd Qh]
Dealer: Dealing Turn: [Jh]
Dealer: Dealing River: [3d]
Dealer: B Buddy has a pair of Queens
Dealer: DaGrifter mucks hand
Dealer: Game #628979236: B Buddy wins pot ($618.50) with a pair of Queens

AJo Go All In 08-20-2004 05:30 AM

Re: Stars 5/10NL game is soft
 
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So, I'm screwing around with the little bit of money I have at stars, decide to buy in for the min. at 5/10NL.

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you know what's funny? this is absolutely the #1 factor contributing to the game being soft.

Trainwreck 08-20-2004 05:45 AM

Re: Stars 5/10NL game is soft
 
You lost $375, why the over-bet? KK? I'd never toss my whole stack in PF, that is bad NL player move...

Only a premium hand can call that, AQ is premium to some people and they shot you down...

At first I thought you were the Q5 moron player... YIKES!

>Trainwreck<

ThePopinjay 08-20-2004 06:59 AM

Re: Stars 5/10NL game is soft
 
... what the hell were u holding? TT is all I can think of, and that's not really a good all-in preflop hand.

greywolf 08-20-2004 07:36 AM

Re: Stars 5/10NL game is soft
 
remember that hes shortstacked and he hasnt giving us any information about what hands B buddy normally raise 10BB with preflop. It could be a good move to move in witt any medium sized PP and perhaps AK to AT or it could be disaster to move in with anyting but AA.

TomCollins 08-20-2004 09:24 AM

Re: Stars 5/10NL game is soft
 
I call 100% of the time with min-buy in wusses with AQ

TheGrifter 08-20-2004 08:57 PM

Re: Stars 5/10NL game is soft
 
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So, I'm screwing around with the little bit of money I have at stars, decide to buy in for the min. at 5/10NL.

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you know what's funny? this is absolutely the #1 factor contributing to the game being soft.

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No, the number one factor to the game being soft is people making negative EV plays.

It's a popular misnomer that buying in for a short-stack leads to a significant disadvantage.

TheGrifter 08-20-2004 08:58 PM

Re: Stars 5/10NL game is soft
 
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You lost $375, why the over-bet? KK? I'd never toss my whole stack in PF, that is bad NL player move...

Only a premium hand can call that, AQ is premium to some people and they shot you down...

At first I thought you were the Q5 moron player... YIKES!

>Trainwreck<

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The 375 dollar overbet was due to the fact that:

A: I was out of position

B: There were a number of players then a raise to 40 by a very poor player

C: I had QQ

TheGrifter 08-20-2004 08:58 PM

Re: Stars 5/10NL game is soft
 
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... what the hell were u holding? TT is all I can think of, and that's not really a good all-in preflop hand.

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I had Ax, point is the raise out of the SB is a pretty common steal move since noone will likely call with less than a premium hand.

TheGrifter 08-20-2004 08:59 PM

Re: Stars 5/10NL game is soft
 
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I call 100% of the time with min-buy in wusses with AQ

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Okay...but you know it's awful, right?


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