Premium hand on the button.
 

AQ on the button a few, say 3 or 4 limpers in front.

Game is NLHE 10 handed - without going into who is weak, tricky or aggressive what is your play here. Blinds are 5-10.

Raise how much,
Limp
Fold

Just wondering what the young guns do here.

Re: Premium hand on the button.
 

AQ is not a premium hand, especially after 3-4 limpers.

You'd probably get better feedback by posting this question in the Poker Theory forum.

Re: Premium hand on the button.
 

LOL - so you fold it or call take a flop and have no idea where you are.

Geesch!

Re: Premium hand on the button.
 

I usually limp here unless raises have been taking down pots. If I think I'm goign to get called by 1 weak player, then I'll raise.

Re: Premium hand on the button.
 

In the the last installment of Cardplayer, Rolf Slotbloom has an excellent article on why it is good to limp with hands like AQ and AJ on the button rather than raise. His rationale (without going into it too much, since you can go read the article yourself by clicking here; http://www.cardplayer.com/poker_maga...es/?a_id=14121 ) is that by raising, you make it difficult for yourself to defend a hand which isn't going to be favorable for you most of the time. Read the article, it'll help.

I also agree that you might consider devaluing AQ from your list of premium hands. It'll get you into a lot of trouble if you consider it as such.

Re: Premium hand on the button.
 

Thanks for pointing out this article. A decent part of his rationale seems to require the game be a limit game (keep the pot small to keep the pot odds incorrect for straight and flush draws after the flop). Isn't this less of a concern for no-limit? A pot sized bet makes a draw incorrect no matter what the size of the original pot.

Someone else posted about limping AQ in the NL thread. Ray Zee and some others came down on the size of raising it. Personally I'd raise it on the button assuming you either take all the limpers money right there or thin the field down to 1 dominated player. If I had this in the small or big blind, I'd check/complete and try a checkraise if I paired the flop.

It's not a premium hand, but it's no slouch either.

Re: Premium hand on the button.
 

yep, it is completely different in nolimit.
in limit everybody is going to call due to the huge pot.

I am raising here. I want to just take the money out there and be done with the hand. Or else have it be 2 or 3 handed, plus I have position.

Re: Premium hand on the button.
 

Amen.

Re: Premium hand on the button.
 

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Isn't this less of a concern for no-limit? A pot sized bet makes a draw incorrect no matter what the size of the original pot.

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This is not true .

Re: Premium hand on the button.
 

If the relevant stacks are small (less than 80), then raise unless someone is prone to limping and not reraising AA/KK/QQ/AK.

If the relevant stacks are much bigger, then only raise if you think you can get headsup with a poor, readable player. I guess this really isn't dependent on the strength of AQ, so my answer is limp.