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tardigrade 07-20-2004 09:33 PM

KJs from button
 
I think this one's pretty standard. I'm wondering about preflop and flop play mostly.

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks,

Should I raise this PF?

Flop: (5 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls.

I think this is a pretty obvious raise, since I likely have the best hand and I want to protect it.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

Obvious.

River: (6.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

Obvious.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 8.50 BB, between Hero and UTG.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by Hero (8.50 BB).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
UTG shows Qh Jc (two pair, jacks and sixes).
Hero shows Jh Kh (two pair, jacks and sixes).
Outcome: Hero wins 8.50 BB. </font>

Basically pretty solid?

bisonbison 07-20-2004 09:34 PM

Re: KJs from button
 
Raise preflop. Rest is fine.

Calling preflop is profitable, raising preflop is more profitable.

kureido 07-20-2004 09:36 PM

Re: KJs from button
 
preflop: on the button, I'd definitely raise this.

I'd play the rest of the hand the same.

-b

deacsoft 07-20-2004 09:37 PM

Re: KJs from button
 
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Should I raise this PF?

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Some times, but not too often. Exceptions to this would be if the blind are realy tight and the UTG limper is limping in with hands that should not be played in EP.

I like the raise on the flop.

bisonbison 07-20-2004 09:39 PM

Re: KJs from button
 
Some times, but not too often. Exceptions to this would be if the blind are realy tight and the UTG limper is limping in with hands that should not be played in EP.

This is way too passive.

It's a pretty damn strong multiway hand with high card value and excellent position. Given party .5/1, raising this 100% of the time in this situation is pretty close to optimal.

deacsoft 07-20-2004 10:11 PM

Re: KJs from button
 
I see your point, and it is well received.

vulturesrow 07-20-2004 11:21 PM

Re: KJs from button
 
Im with you Bison..hard to pass this one up for a raise..

Chris

bisonbison 07-21-2004 02:03 AM

Re: KJs from button
 
I see your point, and it is well received.

It took me a long time to learn stuff like this, from reading good player's posts and so on, but a lot of this is explicitly spelled out in Ed's new book. If you haven't ordered it, order it now.

It really boils down what you should be worried about in the clearest language of any 2+2 book I've read (and I own about 8 of them).

Yerma 07-21-2004 02:24 AM

Ed\'s Book??
 
Hi, you said something about "Ed's new book". Who is Ed? What book is this? Thanks in advance for the info!

bisonbison 07-21-2004 02:29 AM

Re: Ed\'s Book??
 
Ed Miller, Small Stakes Hold'em. Click on the Books link at left.


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