How to play these Aces? PL$200
 

Should I have played this differently?

I felt good (and still do) about potting it after the small raise, but when it's re-raised what's my line?

Omaha Hi/Low $2-$2 PL (real money), hand #1,560,271,830
Table Swerdlowsk, 7 Dec 2005 10:04 AM ET

Seat 1: folder ($183 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero [AH,QH,KH,AC] ($107 in chips) on the Button
Seat 3: SB ($208.20 in chips)
Seat 4: BB ($196 in chips)
Seat 5: folder ($75.40 in chips)
Seat 6: folder ($200 in chips)
Seat 7: folder ($198 in chips)
Seat 8: folder ($162.20 in chips)
Seat 9: folder ($149 in chips)
Seat 10: Villain ($123.75 in chips)

ANTES/BLINDS
SB posts blind ($2), BB posts blind ($2).

PRE-FLOP
Folder folds, Folder folds, Folder folds, Folder folds, Folder calls $2, Villain bets $4, folder calls $4, Hero bets $22, SB folds, BB folds, Folder folds, Villain bets $72, Folder folds, Hero ???

Re: How to play these Aces? PL$200
 

Hero......raises all in and hopes A2 doesnt beat AA

Re: How to play these Aces? PL$200
 

Raise all-in. If the other fellow has an AA with a low card whatsoever you'll be an underdog, to all other hands you are a favourite. With the money you've already invested it's correct to raise all even to a AA23 ds hand, but that is very unlikely holding for your opponent. A crystal clear all-in.

Re: How to play these Aces? PL$200
 

I don't think you should have reraised when it comes to you. There are good aces hands and there are bad aces hands. You have a bad aces hand (a good one basically has a wheel card along with the aces). The only way you are in good shape is if he is a recent holdem convert that thinks any KKxx or QQxx is worth getting the whole stack in. Unfortunately you are not far enough behind to fold. See how this aces hand does against a fairly weak A2 hand:

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1391150
pokenum -mc 500000 -o8 ah qh kh ac - as 2s 7d jh
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 500000 sampled boards
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
Ac Ah Kh Qh 162443 342450 156140 1410 0 0 0 0.506
As 2s 7d Jh 156140 156140 342450 1410 266877 0 0 0.494

You are a tiny favorite. Look at how you come out against a strong A2 hand:

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1391159
pokenum -mc 500000 -o8 ah qh kh ac - as 2s 4d 5d
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 500000 sampled boards
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
Ac Ah Kh Qh 170592 293050 206950 0 0 0 0 0.464
As 2s 5d 4d 206950 206950 293050 0 271615 0 0 0.536

Here you are a small dog. You are piling in chips where you are probably only a coinflip best case to win. Let see how you do if he has a strong aces hand:

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1391160
pokenum -mc 500000 -o8 ah qh kh ac - as 2s ad 5d
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 500000 sampled boards
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
Ac Ah Kh Qh 75463 104114 157662 238224 0 0 0 0.352
As 2s Ad 5d 157662 157662 104114 238224 252359 0 0 0.648

Now you are pretty big dog and got almost all of your money in. Most reraises are from aces, so this is a very likely scenario. Still, you probably have to call, but you did this to yourself by raising a weak AA hand. You will rarely be far ahead with AAQK and you may be in trouble, so take a flop here.

I will often raise from late position with the weak aces hands, but I am not looking to reraise or put in a ton of money. Your hand is a 1 way high only hand, so you should prefer seeing a flop.

Re: How to play these Aces? PL$200
 

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If the other fellow has an AA with a low card whatsoever you'll be an underdog, to all other hands you are a favourite.

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This is simply not true. You will be a dog to almost any hand that has decent straight potential and 2 low cards. Look how you fair against this piece of cheese:

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1391167
pokenum -mc 500000 -o8 ah qh kh ac - 7s 8c td 9h
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 500000 sampled boards
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
Ac Ah Kh Qh 180123 314566 185434 0 0 0 0 0.495
7s 8c Td 9h 185434 185434 314566 0 181067 0 0 0.505

Tiny dog to 789T rainbow. AA with two high cards is not very strong at all.

Re: How to play these Aces? PL$200
 

Your reraise was bad, for all the reasons cooker mentioned (excellent post, btw).

Now that you are here, getting all in is probably more correct than calling or folding, but its not that clear cut. If you could see your opponents hand and he showed AA with 1 low, you would be best off folding this hand now. But for metagame and hand range reasons you’ll want to get it in now.

-g

Re: How to play these Aces? PL$200
 

I did follow up with the rest of my stack and got cleaned out by AA34 (making two pair on the river, 3's and 4's of all things). Afterwards I did some twodiming and realized that I likely was overplaying high-only aces. Thanks for the comments they re-affirm what I suspected.

Re: How to play these Aces? PL$200
 

I think this type of hand is extremely underrated. It's a 56% fav over A234 (no suits--it's a dog against double suited that you don't have) I'd prefer to see a flop with this hand though. The fact it can't make a low isn't important unless you're allin preflop with it. Three low cards and you lost nothing more.
Any two high card flops and that low draw shouldn't be chasing his hand (but yet I see them do it sometimes lol)

That and some people won't believe you have AA if you don't raise with it. So it adds a little value when you get that player set over set.

Re: How to play these Aces? PL$200
 

Muck it, but you know that already. Yes it's the proper move here. You'll be about 2.5 to 1 fav for the high, but Zero chance for the low. Any random hand will have you at about a 3 to 2 dog overall.

Re: How to play these Aces? PL$200
 

yes, but that is a very unlikely holding, who would go all in with such a crap hand?