Pot Limit Bankroll
 

I play Pot Limit Omaha on Poker Stars with blinds (.10 and .25 blinds). I normally buy in for $15-25. I've heard people say you need a bigger bankroll in Omaha than in Hold Em' because of the big swings. What is an adequate bankroll for this level in order to handle the swings.

(i'm sure this has been discussed, but as usually wasn't able to find much with a search.)

Re: Pot Limit Bankroll
 

Most of us here use 30 buy-ins as the minimum BR - making it $750 for the $25 level.

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At PL025 if you play reasonably tight the play is so bad that 20-25 buyins should be fine if you are at all decent. Maybe 30 to move up to 50PLO and a little more for 100. At higher buyins I would set 40-50 as a minimum. I play 200 every once in a while but won't make it my regular game until my PLO bankroll is close to 10K.

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These are my bankroll requirements based on my standard deviation at these limits:

$25 PLO - $600
$50 6 Max PLO - $3000
$50 Full Ring - $2000
$100 6 Max - $6000
$100 Full RIng - $5000
$200 6 Max - $15,000 - $20,000 (these games are ultra high variance)
$200 Full Ring - $15,000 - again, lots of aggro players in these games and not quite as likely to get paid off as well with your strong hands.

I almost never follow these guidelines but I am a foul GAA shot taker.

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These are my bankroll requirements based on my standard deviation at these limits:

$25 PLO - $600
$50 6 Max PLO - $3000
$50 Full Ring - $2000
$100 6 Max - $6000
$100 Full RIng - $5000
$200 6 Max - $15,000 - $20,000 (these games are ultra high variance)
$200 Full Ring - $15,000 - again, lots of aggro players in these games and not quite as likely to get paid off as well with your strong hands.

I almost never follow these guidelines but I am a foul GAA shot taker.

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So $200,000+ for 10/20? Omaha rocks.

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how well(in terms of BB/100) should you be beating $25 before you consider moving up to $100?

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Start taking small shots at the $100 level, buying in for the minimum, or half a full buy in. WR really has nothing to do with it. Just because you can crush the $25 games for 20BB/100 does not mean you will do the same or even win when you play higher.

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Start taking small shots at the $100 level, buying in for the minimum, or half a full buy in.

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Man, that really is taking a shot. Buying in that short limits you to making high variance pre-flop plays with maybe another bet if you bought in for half.

If you are crushing the 25, why not move up to the 50, where you can buy in full. That aren't as complete crazies as in the 25s but you will still get a bunch of donkish/lucrative action.

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Start taking small shots at the $100 level, buying in for the minimum, or half a full buy in.

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Man, that really is taking a shot. Buying in that short limits you to making high variance pre-flop plays with maybe another bet if you bought in for half.

If you are crushing the 25, why not move up to the 50, where you can buy in full. That aren't as complete crazies as in the 25s but you will still get a bunch of donkish/lucrative action.

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the problem is there is never enough 50s, so when i move up it would be to play both 100s and 50s. i could probably start splitting the 25s and 50s now

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What site do you play on? Stars usually has at least two or three $50's going, and you can play 6 max on party. Between the two you generally should have enough, and if there aren't you can always go back to $25.

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Stars usually has 4-5 $50 games at some times, and they are almost always good. Pokerroom also has some great .50-.50 action and Tilt's $50 games look pretty good as well

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I am going to post this for about the fifteenth time in the past week.

PLO IS ABOUT HAVING POSITIVE EQUITY

The key to shortstack play is playing reasonably tight preflop and fairly loose post flop. Yeah it is high variance but if you're really that afraid of getting your stack in you need to move on to some other game. Maybe you should play cribbage.

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I have no trouble with variance and neither should anyone playing this game with the appropriate bankroll.

If you are going to try a higher variance shortstack approach, it would seem that your bankroll requirements would be higher. This flies in the face of your advice to someone wishing to take a shot with a limited bankroll. That is, they are much more likely to go broke at that level with that approach.

So, all I was suggesting was that playing with a full buy-in might help to give a bigger chance of the "shot" working out. Obviously, the downside to this approach is that each shot is more expensive.

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My advice wasn't to someone with a limited bankroll, it was to someone who is bankrolled for the $100 games but who is unsure he can win in those games.

Thanks for coming out.

Re: Pot Limit Bankroll
 

The problem with a full buyin is that you often have to play a turn.

The problem with a short buyin is that if you have only ever played that way, what do you do when you have a big stack...leave?

gl

dd

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My advice wasn't to someone with a limited bankroll, it was to someone who is bankrolled for the $100 games but who is unsure he can win in those games.

Thanks for coming out.

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My misunderstanding...