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1C5 09-08-2005 11:43 PM

2 AK hands, your play?
 
Both from $22.

Hand 1:

No read, push or fold or call?
Total number of players : 7
Seat 3: scrapman1 (1500)
Seat 4: Hero (1130)
Seat 5: auger74 (415)
Seat 6: Rob5622 (1030)
Seat 7: XSTU_UNGARX (860)
Seat 8: jcgroves (660)
Seat 9: bigdave1444 (2405)
scrapman1 posts small blind (50)
Hero posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ks, As ]
auger74 folds.
Rob5622 folds.
XSTU_UNGARX raises (250) to 250
jcgroves folds.
bigdave1444 folds.
scrapman1 folds.
Hero?






Hand 2.

Early. Do you just call here normally or reraise him?

Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: jrkess (160)
Seat 3: MadTider (2708)
Seat 4: jacobnmugatu (900)
Seat 5: Mr_King_SIZE (800)
Seat 6: Redman72111 (760)
Seat 7: Tino55 (549)
Seat 9: Hero (725)
Seat 10: JJ333JJ (1398)
jacobnmugatu posts small blind (15)
Mr_King_SIZE posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ad, Kd ]
Redman72111 raises (90) to 90
Tino55 folds.
Hero?

1C5 09-09-2005 01:51 PM

Re: 2 AK hands, your play?
 
TTT please.

wiggs73 09-09-2005 02:00 PM

Re: 2 AK hands, your play?
 
Hand 1, I kind of like a push. With a larger stack, I'd probably call, but having t900 with a t500 pot out of position could be difficult to play. I'd be satisfied with taking the pot down pre-flop and you might get called from AQ or the likes. At the worst, you're probably a slight dog. There's also some meta-game implications... you pushed a raise from your BB... but yeah, no one pays attention to this stuff at the 20s.

Hand 2, I don't usually like pushing this early into a tournament and you're in better position this time. I'd probably call this one and hope to take it down post-flop, either on a steal if it's checked to you or by hitting and value betting.

hockeyf 09-09-2005 02:01 PM

Re: 2 AK hands, your play?
 
Hand 1 is an easy push. Second hand i call, and play the flop, you cant really make a reraise that doesnt commit you to the hand, a push is better than reraising but i call here.

45suited 09-09-2005 02:01 PM

Re: 2 AK hands, your play?
 
Okay, I'll play...

1) Push

2) I could fold here.

I don't particularly feel like racing, I don't particularly like calling (since you might not get paid when you hit), and without reads, his raise represents real strength and a fairly significant portion of your stack.

Man, I hate writing this, cuz I know I'm gettin flamed. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

09-09-2005 02:03 PM

Re: 2 AK hands, your play?
 
1. Easy push.
2. I probably call, or maybe re-raise to 180 to push out the riff-raff and have position post-flop if he calls you.

Scuba Chuck 09-09-2005 02:04 PM

Re: 2 AK hands, your play?
 
Hand 1: You are the third stack by a slim margin in a 7 handed game. What's your mentaility? When will you clash? How do you intend to acquire chips for finding you way into the money?

Hand 2: I always call these. I know there are some who advocate a reraise to 150, to know where you stand. That seems like a strange proposition as it leaves 575 behind, and you're nearly committing yourself to this hand.

wiggs73 09-09-2005 02:05 PM

Re: 2 AK hands, your play?
 
[ QUOTE ]

Man, I hate writing this, cuz I know I'm gettin flamed. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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I don't hate a fold here. I don't really hate a fold, a call, or a push. I think a case could be made for any. The only thing I don't like is a raise that isn't a push.

Scuba Chuck 09-09-2005 02:05 PM

Re: 2 AK hands, your play?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Okay, I'll play...

1) Push

2) I could fold here.



[/ QUOTE ]

Damn you're a pussy.

09-09-2005 02:12 PM

Re: 2 AK hands, your play?
 
I'd push the first one: he has position on you, and it's for a good chunk of your stack, by pushing you make sure you see the whole board you lose your positional disadvantage. If you dont like the idea of pushing then fold. Absolutely do not call. He only has 8 BB so he could be doing this with a wide range of hands.

In the second hand I'm definatly not reraising. It's a little to early to be pushing all-in. You still have alot of people behind you and its for 1/8th of your stack. So I like folding. Your SnG structure is different from what I'am accustomed to, I usually start with 1500 chips, so I'm not really sure if this is an opportunity you need to capitalize on. If it is consider calling.


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