Valuebetting again...
 

This is an othter hand that I think I have to bet the river after he checks. Is this a clear bet on the river?

Just 21 hands but hes stats are 57/14/0.64

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Preflop: Hero is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (7 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, UTG calls.

River: (8.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB

Re: Valuebetting again...
 

i can't see him calling with anything you beat. Except maybe A-high, but seems like a bit of a weirdarse line for him to take

*Edit* maybe a smaller pocket pair, but i guess its gotta be close either way

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Fold the flop.

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I don't think you get calls very often from worse hands. I would need a read that he calls down with no pair quite often.

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I fold the flop. When SB checkraises and someone coldcalls the checkraise on a paired board with no draw possibilities then you are behind 98% of the time and drawing to 2 outs.

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Just 21 hands but hes stats are 57/14/0.64

Final Pot: 8.50 BB

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How do we interpret the stats. Is villain on the aggro or passive side. As I am not sure I let this go to his flop raise assumi9ng he has a k.

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This is a clear value bet in my mind. All the villian has done is limp/call, ck/call, ck/call, and check. What makes you guys think he won't call one more? Fish like to call but they can't if we check. Hero has a great hand here and I'm not showing it down for free. (But then again I suck at valuebetting)

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Just 21 hands but hes stats are 57/14/0.64

Final Pot: 8.50 BB

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How do we interpret the stats. Is villain on the aggro or passive side. As I am not sure I let this go to his flop raise assumi9ng he has a k.

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These are the villians stats, not the ck raiser.

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I would probably fold the flop when check/raised...that is assuming you dont have some kind of maniac read on SB.

Its very likely he has a 6 or a K here..in which case your [censored].

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This is a really strange hand.

Preflop is pretty standard here. Raising a LAG/LPP with 88 is not bad.

On the flop: You get check raised with a paired uncordinated board with only 1 over. I would have difficultly calling that. But since you did we continue.

On the turn: Both SB and UTG check again and you bet. I don't hate this. Although you MUST fold if you are C/Red again. Ok, we are done with the turn and the sb folded (He gets a note for a flop C/R then fold the turn). UTG is still there though. What does he have. He called two cold on the flop after checking... HMMMM. He just called after the sb folded on the turn... HMMMM. I put him prettly squarely on Kx here and he is not folding that for one bet on the river.

Therefore, I check and expect to lose.