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MSUcougar 11-29-2005 12:17 AM

Ugly Postflop Situation w/ JJ ($109)
 
Seat 7: MSUcougar ( $960 )
Seat 1: yoyome2005 ( $1000 )
Seat 8: azpokerwhore ( $975 )
Seat 2: IamURnot ( $1120 )
Seat 5: Rumsfeld_08 ( $775 )
Seat 9: chopperRick ( $625 )
Seat 10: jrg48 ( $1375 )
Seat 3: Ranto ( $960 )
Seat 6: BuillGates ( $1030 )
Seat 4: Gauteng ( $1180 )
Trny:17816931 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to MSUcougar [ Jd Js ]
BuillGates folds.
MSUcougar raises [95].
azpokerwhore folds.
chopperRick folds.
jrg48 calls [95].
yoyome2005 folds.
IamURnot folds.
Ranto folds.
Gauteng calls [80].
Rumsfeld_08 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6s, 9d, 5h ] (POT 300)
Gauteng checks.
MSUcougar bets [175].
jrg48 raises [350].
Gauteng calls [350].
MSUcougar ????

Comments on PF and flop action are welcome but I'm most curious about how you handle the 2nd flop decision...

I have 690 behind...

No reads as it's early and I don't recognize either villain...

bluefeet 11-29-2005 12:25 AM

Re: Ugly Postflop Situation w/ JJ ($109)
 
I'm going broke here - push. (PF is fine IMO)

AlphaWice 11-29-2005 12:38 AM

Re: Ugly Postflop Situation w/ JJ ($109)
 
this is a bit tough, because there's no flush draw. I think its correct to fold, but I am not a high limit player.

My thinking is based on Gautengs play. He calls after two callers, then checks the flop. After a bet and a raise, he flat calls. This screams better than TPTK to me, which is all you are beating. (It can't be a bluff, because there isn't any room for him to push the turn and expect any FE anyways.) Fold.

Jman28 11-29-2005 12:39 AM

Re: Ugly Postflop Situation w/ JJ ($109)
 
I raise to t80, but whatev. The hand is played fine. I push now. 88 or A9 loves to minraise here, thinking you have overcards. I'm not really sure why. Caller could have TT, 88, 77, A9.

Remember that they are is twice as likely to have TT, 88, or 77 on this board than a set (ignoring what he would/wouldn't raise/call with).

bigt439 11-29-2005 01:02 AM

Re: Ugly Postflop Situation w/ JJ ($109)
 
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I'm going broke here - push. (PF is fine IMO)

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Too much money. Too good a hand. But I'm not thrilled.

MSUcougar 11-29-2005 02:02 AM

Re: Ugly Postflop Situation w/ JJ ($109)
 
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I'm going broke here - push. (PF is fine IMO)

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Too much money. Too good a hand. But I'm not thrilled.

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I definitely push this most of the time... but I just couldn't see how I had both hands beat here... if SB doesn't cold call the minraise I push for sure...

tigerite 11-29-2005 06:11 AM

Re: Ugly Postflop Situation w/ JJ ($109)
 
Push, I'm afraid, even though you probably lost to a set, otherwise you'd not have posted it..

aujoz 11-29-2005 06:37 AM

Re: Ugly Postflop Situation w/ JJ ($109)
 
push, lose to some weird hand (or a slow played big pair), and reload.

11-29-2005 06:49 AM

Re: Ugly Postflop Situation w/ JJ ($109)
 
I just hate the overcall from the blind. I feel sick but can't see folding considering the pot and your stack sizes. One encouraging aspect is that you don't recognize either villain which to me makes it more likely that they're donks.

So push.

tigerite 11-29-2005 06:50 AM

Re: Ugly Postflop Situation w/ JJ ($109)
 
I've never seen either of those players at the $109s, but my sample size is miniscule, so meh. I may have at the $55s. Not sure, as my PT database is on the home pc.


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