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Radio 11-27-2005 10:28 PM

never played NL, Advice please
 
Im considering a move from small stakes limit to small staked NL or POT limit holdem, But iv only ever played limit, so where do i begin? Im going to start at the micro limits and work my way up but what books should i buy and also What are the starting hand requirements when playing NL or PL compaired to limit?. I normaly use the tight starting hand chart from SSH when playing limit is it the same for NL/PL and how big should the pre-flp raises be ect?

JustToast 11-27-2005 10:44 PM

Re: never played NL, Advice please
 
Read Harrington on Hold'em

Typical pre-flop raise is 4xBB + 1 BB for every limper.

CaptainNoBeard 11-27-2005 10:48 PM

Re: never played NL, Advice please
 
harrington on hold'em is a fine starting place, but search around 2+2 a bit. you'll get more out of these boards then you will any textbook i can think of.

ajmargarine 11-27-2005 10:52 PM

Re: never played NL, Advice please
 
--read these forums. Post your hands, discuss/analyze other people's hands.
--4xBB(+1BB per limper) will get you started on PFR's.
--choose one. NL or PL. I find PL more complex, but I never played limit so that might be part of the problem. As there are many more NL games to choose from, I'd advise you to play NL and avoid PL until a time comes where you feel comfortable in NL.

Radio 11-28-2005 08:37 PM

Re: never played NL, Advice please
 
so are the starting hand requirments the same as a tight limit game? or is there a NL starting hand chart?

xorbie 11-28-2005 08:38 PM

Re: never played NL, Advice please
 
Starting hand requirements are definitely different. Dominated hands are much more of a liablity (especially in raised pots) and hands like AT and AJ lose a lot of value, while low pairs and mid suited connectors gain a lot because you can play fit or fold for the most part.

Hattifnatt 11-28-2005 09:01 PM

Re: never played NL, Advice please
 
1. Read Pot limit and No limit holdem by giaffone twice

2. Play only one table and think/analyze the game a lot. If you can afford it, dont play lower stakes than 0.25/0.50 NL. Post hands here you are unsure about if you played it correctly.

11-28-2005 09:26 PM

Re: never played NL, Advice please
 
I never really played much limit, but my guess is position is much, much, much more important in NL. Don't get involved with marginal aces or baby aces OOP. It usually is a recipe for disaster in NL.

Also, try and avoid the minraise, especially preflop.

4_2_it 11-28-2005 09:31 PM

Re: never played NL, Advice please
 
Bet sizes should be a % of the pot. Limit players often give huge implied odds for chasers. Make the chaser pay for his flush and resist the urge to pay him off (every time) when he hits it.

Radio 11-28-2005 09:55 PM

Re: never played NL, Advice please
 
so do the books have starting hand charts in them like the limit books do?


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