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tigerite 12-15-2005 03:29 PM

Custer Hand #1 (with curtains also in the SNG)
 
BB is fairly loose, but this still seems a bad fold to me..

PartyPoker - NL Texas Hold'em $200 Buy-in + $15 Entry Fee Tournament | Level: 3 - 8 players (Converter: PGC)


Chip Counts:
Button: 795 Chips
<font color="red">Hero: 1200 Chips</font>
BB: 930 Chips
UTG: 1410 Chips
UTG+1: 1230 Chips
UTG+2: 1085 Chips
MP1: 745 Chips
MP2: 1675 Chips
CO: 930 Chips

Hero is SB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Blinds are 25/50

PreFlop
<font color="blue">UTG folds</font>, <font color="blue">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="blue">UTG+2 folds</font>, <font color="blue">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="blue">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="blue">CO folds</font>, <font color="blue">Button folds</font>
<font color="blue">Hero folds</font>

Final Pot:75 Chips

Pasterbator 12-15-2005 04:08 PM

Re: Custer Hand #1 (with curtains also in the SNG)
 
I'm always stuck in this spot as well. If you raise, you need to fold to a reraise. If you limp, you're giving him a free flop with over cards.

Ugh. I don't mind a fold against a known loose player because risking 150 chips on a steal doesn't seem worth it for the 75 chip reward. Especially when you expect him to come over the top a large % of the time.

12-15-2005 04:51 PM

Re: Custer Hand #1 (with curtains also in the SNG)
 
Custer has said that he sometimes folds when in a marginally +$EV spot, to save time/attention for other tables or something like that. This could be the reason he folds.

And I've tried to raise with Ax, kings with decent kickers, low pairs etc. in this spot, but I keep getting reraised all-in. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] Could be variance, or maybe I choose all the wrong opponents to do this.

Maybe calling is best. Almost everybody folds to a bet on the flop unless they hit something fairly good. (player dependent of course)

citanul 12-15-2005 04:56 PM

Re: Custer Hand #1 (with curtains also in the SNG)
 
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Custer has said that he sometimes folds when in a marginally +$EV spot, to save time/attention for other tables or something like that. This could be the reason he folds.

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this line of reasoning = dumb

curtains 12-15-2005 05:00 PM

Re: Custer Hand #1 (with curtains also in the SNG)
 
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Custer has said that he sometimes folds when in a marginally +$EV spot, to save time/attention for other tables or something like that. This could be the reason he folds.

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this line of reasoning = dumb

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This reasoning isnt so dumb, but in any case I never really fold this spot. I don't think its terrible though.

12-15-2005 05:05 PM

Re: Custer Hand #1 (with curtains also in the SNG)
 
Tough one. If you raise to 150, you're down to 1075. He has to put in 100 for a 200 pot - so not bad odds for him. If you raise more, it sucks; and if you raise less it sucks. If you call it sucks. If he calls your raise, flop is likely going to suck. If he reraises you from BB, that's going to suck.

Folding is the least sucky move.

valenzuela 12-15-2005 05:05 PM

Re: Custer Hand #1 (with curtains also in the SNG)
 
I think the fold is bad considering a push is +EV.

12-15-2005 05:06 PM

Re: Custer Hand #1 (with curtains also in the SNG)
 
Pushing to grab 75 chips? Nah.

valenzuela 12-15-2005 05:07 PM

Re: Custer Hand #1 (with curtains also in the SNG)
 
its better than folding.

edit: The effects of pushing 33 on that spot might get u in the long run(ppl will have a better idea of ure range when u only bet 150, etc) ..but Im sure that on the short run, not considering effects, pushing &gt; folding.

psyduck 12-15-2005 05:22 PM

Re: Custer Hand #1 (with curtains also in the SNG)
 
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I think the fold is bad considering a push is +EV.

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............uhhhhh he has close to 20 BB.


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