Reuben\'s PLO Book
 

What do people make of Reuben's "How Good Is Your Pot Limit Omaha?". I do not think much of it but someone posted in the Books forum and rated it a 9/10.

Does anyone with any understanding of PLO think well of it?

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I do't know if I qualify, but yes I liked it for what it is (ie a quiz book). Not as much as the poster - I'd say maybe 8/10. What didn't you like about it?

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I thought his opening requirements loose. I also thought some of his plays were rationalizations of poor praxis. Stylistically, it was a mess as well. However, I did learn a thing or two from it, most importantly, that monster draws can be bet for value as they may well be money favorites over made hands (trips).

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I quite enjoy his writing style. As for opening requirements, he's playing in a very very deep game so his implied odds are pretty decent (although I'll admit that implied odds aren't all they're cracked up to be in PLO). He's also aggressive enough to be able to steal enough to compensate for when he misses. Basically playing exactly like him isn't a great idea and it's really a book on how to beat the big game at the Victoria Casino, London, which makes it of limited general use, but I did learn some good stuff from it. THe main thing I took from it was how to play those big draws - why for example it's sometimes best to raise all in and sometimes to just call(eg when a raise won't make your opponent fold and when you'll still have odds to call on the turn if the board doesn't pair - but if it does, and you have no sort of made hand, you can fold reasonably happily). Previously I would just whack it all in no matter what, which as he says is pretty much just gambling.

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what are the blinds at the victoria big game?

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I forget - I think £25-£25. In many of the hands he and his opponents are sitting with ten thousand or more.

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what are the blinds at the victoria big game?

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There was more than one game size mentioned throughout the book. The blinds were of various sizes and on occasion there was a running ante. However, all games were pot limit Omaha.

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When I first got the book, I posted that I hated it. I still do.

- he never gives stack sizes

- he admonishes you for folding horrible hands UTG with the reasoning that "I would get so bored if I didn't play this many hands that I would go on tilt" or some such nonsense

- he claims PLO is a less positional game than hold'em, with no argument for why. This is something which lots of players I respect (Zee, Raymer, acesover8s) have flatly disagreed with on these forums, with reasoning.

It's quite a fun read and cheap, though!

Guy.

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Anyone read Championship Omaha, I liked that one.

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Hi guys,

I have finished the book two days ago, and have just finished my review / rating. (It will be on my site in a few days probably.) Just like a few other posters, I have somewhat mixed feelings about the book. On the one hand Mr. Reuben is the first to come up with this kind of detailed analysis on PLO money games for stakes that matter, with example hands taken from the probably toughest PLO game in the world (the one in the Vic). On the other hand, there are a few unforgivable omissions in the book as well. (I will save these omissions for later; a few posters have mentioned some of them already.) Anyway, it's definitely an interesting book IMO, and a must read for PLO players, but certainly not the masterpiece that a proven PLO champion claimed it to be.

Rolf Slotboom
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