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schwza 07-18-2005 10:45 AM

HU in a mini step 5
 
villain has been too tight HU. up till this hand he had folded 4 of his 5 SB's, and on the other he pushed and showed AJ. i have open-raised 4 of my 5 SB's and folded one to a reraise (won blinds in the others; he showed AJ on the reraise). the full HU HH is posted below. here is the key hand:

#Game No : 2382205558
***** Hand History for Game 2382205558 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $400 Buy-in + $30 Entry Fee Trny:14033141 Level:9 Blinds(250/500) - Monday, July 18, 00:03:10 EDT 2005
Table Mini Step 5 #1014283 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 2: worldsgrtest ( $4210 )
Seat 8: hero ( $5790 )
Trny:14033141 Level:9
Blinds(250/500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ As 6c ]
worldsgrtest calls [250].
hero checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jc, Ac, 8s ]
hero bets [600].
worldsgrtest raises [1200].
Your time bank will become active in less than 20 seconds. If you do not want it to be used, please act now.
hero calls [600].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9s ]
hero checks.
worldsgrtest is all-In [2510]
hero ?

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full HU HH to this point:

#Game No : 2382190166
***** Hand History for Game 2382190166 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $400 Buy-in + $30 Entry Fee Trny:14033141 Level:8 Blinds(200/400) - Monday, July 18, 00:00:31 EDT 2005
Table Mini Step 5 #1014283 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 2: worldsgrtest ( $4560 )
Seat 8: hero ( $5440 )
Trny:14033141 Level:8
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 4h Qc ]
worldsgrtest folds.
hero does not show cards.
hero wins 600 chips
Game #2382191599 starts.

#Game No : 2382191599
***** Hand History for Game 2382191599 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $400 Buy-in + $30 Entry Fee Trny:14033141 Level:8 Blinds(200/400) - Monday, July 18, 00:00:46 EDT 2005
Table Mini Step 5 #1014283 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 2: worldsgrtest ( $4360 )
Seat 8: hero ( $5640 )
Trny:14033141 Level:8
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ Ks 2d ]
hero raises [800].
worldsgrtest is all-In [3960]
hero folds.
worldsgrtest shows [ Ah, Jh ] high card ace.
worldsgrtest wins 5360 chips from the main pot with high card ace.
Game #2382194419 starts.

#Game No : 2382194419
***** Hand History for Game 2382194419 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $400 Buy-in + $30 Entry Fee Trny:14033141 Level:8 Blinds(200/400) - Monday, July 18, 00:01:16 EDT 2005
Table Mini Step 5 #1014283 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 2: worldsgrtest ( $5360 )
Seat 8: hero ( $4640 )
Trny:14033141 Level:8
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ Jc Ah ]
worldsgrtest folds.
hero does not show cards.
hero wins 600 chips
Game #2382195462 starts.

#Game No : 2382195462
***** Hand History for Game 2382195462 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $400 Buy-in + $30 Entry Fee Trny:14033141 Level:8 Blinds(200/400) - Monday, July 18, 00:01:26 EDT 2005
Table Mini Step 5 #1014283 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 2: worldsgrtest ( $5160 )
Seat 8: hero ( $4840 )
Trny:14033141 Level:8
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 9h 9s ]
hero raises [800].
worldsgrtest folds.
hero does not show cards.
hero wins 1400 chips
Game #2382196757 starts.

#Game No : 2382196757
***** Hand History for Game 2382196757 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $400 Buy-in + $30 Entry Fee Trny:14033141 Level:8 Blinds(200/400) - Monday, July 18, 00:01:40 EDT 2005
Table Mini Step 5 #1014283 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 2: worldsgrtest ( $4760 )
Seat 8: hero ( $5240 )
Trny:14033141 Level:8
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ Qs 3h ]
worldsgrtest folds.
hero does not show cards.
hero wins 600 chips
Game #2382197656 starts.

#Game No : 2382197656
***** Hand History for Game 2382197656 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $400 Buy-in + $30 Entry Fee Trny:14033141 Level:8 Blinds(200/400) - Monday, July 18, 00:01:49 EDT 2005
Table Mini Step 5 #1014283 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 2: worldsgrtest ( $4560 )
Seat 8: hero ( $5440 )
Trny:14033141 Level:8
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 4s Kd ]
hero raises [800].
worldsgrtest folds.
hero does not show cards.
hero wins 1400 chips
Game #2382199560 starts.

#Game No : 2382199560
***** Hand History for Game 2382199560 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $400 Buy-in + $30 Entry Fee Trny:14033141 Level:8 Blinds(200/400) - Monday, July 18, 00:02:08 EDT 2005
Table Mini Step 5 #1014283 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 2: worldsgrtest ( $4160 )
Seat 8: hero ( $5840 )
Trny:14033141 Level:8
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 9c 4d ]
worldsgrtest is all-In [3960]
hero folds.
worldsgrtest shows [ Ac, Jh ] high card ace.
worldsgrtest wins 4560 chips from the main pot with high card ace.
Game #2382201218 starts.

#Game No : 2382201218
***** Hand History for Game 2382201218 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $400 Buy-in + $30 Entry Fee Trny:14033141 Level:8 Blinds(200/400) - Monday, July 18, 00:02:26 EDT 2005
Table Mini Step 5 #1014283 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 2: worldsgrtest ( $4560 )
Seat 8: hero ( $5440 )
Trny:14033141 Level:8
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 3s 3d ]
hero raises [800].
worldsgrtest folds.
hero does not show cards.
hero wins 1400 chips
Game #2382202488 starts.

#Game No : 2382202488
***** Hand History for Game 2382202488 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $400 Buy-in + $30 Entry Fee Trny:14033141 Level:8 Blinds(200/400) - Monday, July 18, 00:02:39 EDT 2005
Table Mini Step 5 #1014283 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 2: worldsgrtest ( $4160 )
Seat 8: hero ( $5840 )
Trny:14033141 Level:8
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ Qd Qs ]
worldsgrtest folds.
hero does not show cards.
hero wins 600 chips
Game #2382203377 starts.

#Game No : 2382203377
***** Hand History for Game 2382203377 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $400 Buy-in + $30 Entry Fee Trny:14033141 Level:9 Blinds(250/500) - Monday, July 18, 00:02:48 EDT 2005
Table Mini Step 5 #1014283 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 2: worldsgrtest ( $3960 )
Seat 8: hero ( $6040 )
Trny:14033141 Level:9
Blinds(250/500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 9c 2d ]
hero folds.
worldsgrtest shows [ 8h, Kh ] high card king.
worldsgrtest wins 750 chips from the main pot with high card king.
Game #2382205558 starts.

#Game No : 2382205558
***** Hand History for Game 2382205558 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $400 Buy-in + $30 Entry Fee Trny:14033141 Level:9 Blinds(250/500) - Monday, July 18, 00:03:10 EDT 2005
Table Mini Step 5 #1014283 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 2: worldsgrtest ( $4210 )
Seat 8: hero ( $5790 )
Trny:14033141 Level:9
Blinds(250/500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ As 6c ]
worldsgrtest calls [250].
hero checks......

durron597 07-18-2005 10:52 AM

Re: HU in a mini step 5
 
I hate the flop call. You have to decide if he has a better ace now, because the stacks aren't deep enough to decide at any other time. He is going to push the turn when you check to him 100% of the time unless he has a hand like a set of aces.

You played the whole tourney with him, I didn't.... but push the flop to his minraise or just fold. Most of the time I push the flop to his minraise.

schwza 07-18-2005 11:33 AM

Re: HU in a mini step 5
 
[ QUOTE ]
He is going to push the turn when you check to him 100% of the time unless he has a hand like a set of aces.


[/ QUOTE ]

i agree he's pretty likely to push the turn, which is why i hate a flop push. if i decide my hand is good, why should i let him get away from J8 or whatever? i think the three acceptable lines are

- fold
- call, check/fold turn
- call, check/call turn

if i decide i'm going broke against a good hand, i want to maximize my chance of busting a bad one. i don't think there are many free cards that hurt, and if he does check behind a hand like Jx on the turn, he'll pay off a bet on the river.

durron597 07-18-2005 11:37 AM

Re: HU in a mini step 5
 
[ QUOTE ]

i agree he's pretty likely to push the turn, which is why i hate a flop push. if i decide my hand is good, why should i let him get away from J8 or whatever?


[/ QUOTE ]

Good point. But what I was saying was:

[ QUOTE ]

- call, check/fold turn


[/ QUOTE ]

Is horrible. Either fold on the flop or try to trap him for the rest of his chips.

schwza 07-20-2005 10:11 AM

Re: HU in a mini step 5
 
bump.

i think every one of my decisions in this hand is debatable. discussion would be greatly appreciated...

gumpzilla 07-20-2005 10:26 AM

Re: HU in a mini step 5
 
I think checking PF is okay. If he's been folding a ton, the limp in is pretty suspicious, although given that he also pushed and showed with AJ it's not necessarily a monster. I don't think stacks are deep enough to probe him right now with a bet without pushing, and I'm not a big fan of pushing into that limp against a player who has been too tight with A6, so I like the check.

I agree with durron's assessment of how you should handle the flop minraise. Decide right there if you want to get your stack in, and then either fold or call and check/call the turn. Betting the flop is probably a pretty decent idea against a tight opponent (was he passive or aggressive post flop?) because it's probably going to let you know when you're beat while still leaving you some chips. So all in all, I don't mind how you played the hand, except I wouldn't call the flop raise and then fold the turn.


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