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12-15-2005 01:42 AM

$50 tournie on UB 10th hand QQ..2 all ins before me!!!
 
10th hand in a $50 tournament just now. I have no information on my opponents. This hand i pick up QQ in middle position. utg bets 95, i raise to 300, player right after me goes all in for 1465, utg quickly calls!! Was i right to fold? Especially considering not knowing anything about the table?

SixFootEight is at seat 0 with 1325.
Neill543 is at seat 1 with 1875.
Airness23 is at seat 2 with 310.
ststephen99 is at seat 3 with 1600.
Cali_Doc is at seat 4 with 4465.
bone777 is at seat 5 with 1490.
lip77 is at seat 6 with 1020.
tandyoo8 is at seat 7 with 1465.
Texas Troll is at seat 8 with 1485.
mikeroels is at seat 9 with 1465.
The button is at seat 4.

bone777 posts the small blind of 5.
lip77 posts the big blind of 10.

mikeroels: Qd Qh

Pre-flop:

tandyoo8 raises to 95. Texas Troll folds. mikeroels
re-raises to 300. SixFootEight goes all-in for 1325.
Neill543 folds. Airness23 folds. ststephen99
folds. Cali_Doc folds. bone777 folds. lip77
folds. tandyoo8 goes all-in for 1465. mikeroels
folds. tandyoo8 is returned 140 (uncalled).

Results in white.
<font color="white"> Tournament all-in showdown -- players show:

SixFootEight shows Ad Kh.
tandyoo8 shows Jd Js.


River (board: 6c Td 4d 5c Qc):
</font>

reecelights 12-15-2005 02:30 AM

Re: $50 tournie on UB 10th hand QQ..2 all ins before me!!!
 
Unless you have better reads and can put both of your opponents on AK/AQ/AJ/AT or smaller PP hands, I think this is an OK fold. If both opponents have unpaired Aces you are a favorite as their As reduce the number of outs.

It's early, you have plenty of time to catch another big hand.

nath 12-15-2005 03:36 AM

Re: $50 tournie on UB 10th hand QQ..2 all ins before me!!!
 
It's hard to say. Sometimes you see the AK/JJ, sometimes you see the KK/AA. I tend to call because I'm always looking to gamboooool.

schwza 12-15-2005 11:45 AM

Re: $50 tournie on UB 10th hand QQ..2 all ins before me!!!
 
ugh. it's pretty close. you're not that far off from having odds to call if they do have AA and JJ. but i think one of them has AA/KK a lot more often than neither does, so i think the fold is good.

by my rough math you have to win ~25%, and if there's an overpair out you're ~17%, if not then you're ~50%. so you need to see no overpair 1/3 as often than yes overpair ([25-17] * 3 ~= 50-25). i think you'll see an overpair at least 5x as often as no overpair.


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